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From: sameo@linux.intel.com (Samuel Ortiz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 01/11] mfd: add pruss mfd driver.
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 22:21:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110522202129.GE18610@sortiz-mobl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201105112203.54838.arnd@arndb.de>

Hi Arnd,

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:03:54PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 May 2011, Subhasish Ghosh wrote:
> > > Please look into implementing one of the three I suggested before
> > > you go off in another direction. In case of the third one, the idea
> > > was to configure the name of the device for each pru using sysfs,
> > > which then gets bound to the driver, which loads its own firmware
> > > as you do today. Only in the first two suggestions, the mfd driver
> > > would be responsible for loading the firmware.
> > 
> > Ok, thanks for the clarification.
> > Instead of passing the device name, will it be ok to pass the mfd_id.
> > The benefit will be that I can use the ID directly as an array
> > index for the mfd_cell entries.
> 
> I think a device name would be clearer here, especially in order
> to avoid conflicts when the list gets extended in different ways
> depending on which kernel runs.
> 
> We had a little discussion at the Linaro Developer Summit about your
> driver and mfd drivers in general. There was a general feeling among
> some people (including me) that by the point you dynamically create
> the subdevices, MFD is probably not the right abstraction any more,
> as it does not provide any service that you need.
I agree it's not what it's been designed for.


> Instead, maybe you can simply call platform_device_register
> at that stage to create the children and not use MFD at all.
The MFD APIs are slightly easier to use though, imho.


> Samuel, can you comment on this as well? Do you still see pruss
> as an MFD driver when the uses are completely dynamic and determined
> by the firmware loaded into it?
Even though that is definitely not a typical MFD use case, I wouldn't object
strongly against it. Right now mfd is probably the least worst choice for this
kind of drivers, which still doesn't make it an ideal situation.

Cheers,
Samuel.

-- 
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
http://oss.intel.com/

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Subhasish Ghosh <subhasish@mistralsolutions.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	"Nori, Sekhar" <nsekhar@ti.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com,
	sachi@mistralsolutions.com,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Watkins, Melissa" <m-watkins@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/11] mfd: add pruss mfd driver.
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 22:21:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110522202129.GE18610@sortiz-mobl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201105112203.54838.arnd@arndb.de>

Hi Arnd,

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:03:54PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 May 2011, Subhasish Ghosh wrote:
> > > Please look into implementing one of the three I suggested before
> > > you go off in another direction. In case of the third one, the idea
> > > was to configure the name of the device for each pru using sysfs,
> > > which then gets bound to the driver, which loads its own firmware
> > > as you do today. Only in the first two suggestions, the mfd driver
> > > would be responsible for loading the firmware.
> > 
> > Ok, thanks for the clarification.
> > Instead of passing the device name, will it be ok to pass the mfd_id.
> > The benefit will be that I can use the ID directly as an array
> > index for the mfd_cell entries.
> 
> I think a device name would be clearer here, especially in order
> to avoid conflicts when the list gets extended in different ways
> depending on which kernel runs.
> 
> We had a little discussion at the Linaro Developer Summit about your
> driver and mfd drivers in general. There was a general feeling among
> some people (including me) that by the point you dynamically create
> the subdevices, MFD is probably not the right abstraction any more,
> as it does not provide any service that you need.
I agree it's not what it's been designed for.


> Instead, maybe you can simply call platform_device_register
> at that stage to create the children and not use MFD at all.
The MFD APIs are slightly easier to use though, imho.


> Samuel, can you comment on this as well? Do you still see pruss
> as an MFD driver when the uses are completely dynamic and determined
> by the firmware loaded into it?
Even though that is definitely not a typical MFD use case, I wouldn't object
strongly against it. Right now mfd is probably the least worst choice for this
kind of drivers, which still doesn't make it an ideal situation.

Cheers,
Samuel.

-- 
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
http://oss.intel.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-22 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-22 12:08 [PATCH v4 00/11] pruss mfd drivers Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 11:50 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] tty: add pruss SUART driver Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-25 21:20   ` Greg KH
2011-04-25 21:20     ` Greg KH
2011-04-26  6:51     ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-04-26  6:51       ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-04-26 12:45       ` Greg KH
2011-04-26 12:45         ` Greg KH
2011-04-27  5:23         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27  5:23           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 11:19           ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-04-27 11:19             ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-04-27 13:15             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:15               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 17:50               ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-04-27 17:50                 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-02  8:34                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-02  8:34                   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-02 17:15                   ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-02 17:15                     ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-10 10:54             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:54               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 13:13               ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-10 13:13                 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-13 12:10                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-13 12:10                   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-09 13:39   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-09 13:39     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-09 13:46     ` Alan Cox
2011-05-09 13:46       ` Alan Cox
2011-05-09 13:50       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-09 13:50         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-09 13:55         ` Alan Cox
2011-05-09 13:55           ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10  6:17           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10  6:17             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 13:32             ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10 13:32               ` Alan Cox
2011-05-11  7:01               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11  7:01                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11 10:35                 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-11 10:35                   ` Alan Cox
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] mfd: add pruss mfd driver Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 16:00   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-22 16:00     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27  6:39     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27  6:39       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27  7:29       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27  7:29         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27  9:12         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:12           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 13:18           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:18             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:35             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:35               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-28  7:22               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-28  7:22                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-28  7:46                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  7:46                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 13:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 13:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 13:38     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:38       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 14:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:05         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  7:17         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-28  7:17           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-28  7:35           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  7:35             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04  7:18             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04  7:18               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04 13:44               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 13:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 14:38               ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-04 14:38                 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-05-05 13:25                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-05 13:25                   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-05 14:12                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-05 14:12                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-10  9:53                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10  9:53                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 21:44                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-10 21:44                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11  9:28                         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11  9:28                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11 20:03                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 20:03                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-13 10:55                             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-13 10:55                               ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-14 16:01                               ` Mark Brown
2011-05-14 16:01                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-05-14 20:33                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-14 20:33                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-14 22:14                                   ` Mark Brown
2011-05-14 22:14                                     ` Mark Brown
2011-05-15  9:33                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-15  9:33                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-16  6:06                                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-16  6:06                                         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-23 15:30                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-23 15:30                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 12:17                                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-24 12:17                                             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-24 12:40                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 12:40                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 13:43                                               ` Greg KH
2011-05-24 13:43                                                 ` Greg KH
2011-05-30 13:25                                                 ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 13:25                                                   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 14:02                                                   ` Greg KH
2011-05-30 14:02                                                     ` Greg KH
2011-05-30 14:38                                                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 14:38                                                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 14:04                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-30 14:04                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-30 14:13                                                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 14:13                                                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 14:43                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-30 14:43                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-30 15:28                                                         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-30 15:28                                                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-22 20:24                                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-05-22 20:24                                     ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-05-22 20:21                             ` Samuel Ortiz [this message]
2011-05-22 20:21                               ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-05-23 15:13                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-23 15:13                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] da850: add pruss clock Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] da850: pruss platform specific additions Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-26 11:06   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-26 11:06     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27  6:43     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27  6:43       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 10:05       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 10:05         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 10:19         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 10:19           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] da850: pruss board " Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] mfd: pruss SUART private data Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] da850: pruss SUART board specific additions Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] da850: pruss SUART platform " Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] mfd: pruss CAN private data Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] da850: pruss CAN platform specific additions Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] da850: pruss CAN board " Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:08   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 16:03   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-22 16:03     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-26 10:57   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-26 10:57     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27  7:03     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27  7:03       ` Subhasish Ghosh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-20  5:38 [PATCH v4 01/11] mfd: add pruss mfd driver Subhasish Ghosh

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