Re: debian hppa

[dann frazier <dannf@dannf.org>]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:24 -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 May 2011, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:56 AM, dann frazier <dannf@dannf.org> wrote:
> > > > Probably. debian-ports is the only other option I know of - but it
> > > > means we need people to step up and do random bits of release work
> > > > (keeping a working installer, etc). I also think we'd need to have
> > > > some notion of a "stable" release - I don't think an unstable-only
> > > > release is very useful outside of a developer's basement, and not
> > > > something I'd want to host our infrastructure systems on.
> 
> I also don't think an unstable only release is viable.  Can't we just
> run a private buildd on stable, testing and unstable?

debian-ports has offered to provide this infrastructure for us - but
they currently only build sid. We'd need some extra manpower to help
them work on the processes to maintain other suites.

> > > > Since I don't see that happening, yes, Gentoo.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > We need like 3-4 more people on the project to properly support
> > > debian-ports for hppa. I don't think that type of support is going to
> > > materialize any time soon.
> > 
> > It's unclear whether any volunteer support for hppa remains within
> > "debian".  I added the parisc-linux list to the cc list to make people
> > aware of the situation.
> > 
> > Aside from the issue about releases, the buildd process is stuck
> > due to unresolved dependencies.  Maybe it should be shutdown to
> > preserve state.
> > 
> > > Therefore I think Gentoo is probably the best option for the community.
> > > 
> > > I don't care how we achieve a sustainable distribution for hppa, only
> > > that we continue to provide value to our user community.
> > 
> > There is some hppa work still being done in Gentoo, so I tend to agree
> > but I have no direct experience with it.
> 
> Sure ... I've no objection to moving from debian to gentoo if that means
> we get a working distribution.  It's a bit of a hassle, since I have to
> move all my x86 boxes as well (don't ask, complex infrastructure with a
> parisc as gateway mirror in the middle), but I suppose it's pain only
> once.
> 
> James
> 
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