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From: Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com>
To: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dm-kcopyd: introduce per-module throttle structure
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:01:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110603110111.GA4969@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1106021536240.31532@hs20-bc2-1.build.redhat.com>

On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 03:55:16PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > iv) you haven't explained how the sys admin works out the correct
> > throttle value.
> 
> There is no "correct" value. The "correct" value depends on how important 
> is copying itself v.s. other i/o.

So who is going to set this?  Do you really have no advice for them
beyond 'there is no correct value'?

> In theory (if disk scheduler were perfect), we wouldn't need any 
> throttling. The disk scheduler should recognize that the kcopyd process is 
> sending way more requests than any other process and should lower the 
> i/o priority of kcopyd process.
> 
> In practice, the disk scheduler doesn't do it well, so kcopyd hurts the 
> users. If you want an automated fix, fix the disk scheduler. But don't put 
> disk scheduler logic into device mapper --- it dosn't belong there.

I totally agree with these two paragraphs.  Any throttling you add to
kcopyd is always going to be a hack.

- Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-03 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-31 22:03 [PATCH 1/2] dm-kcopyd: introduce per-module throttle structure Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-01  6:18 ` Ankit Jain
2011-06-01  7:13   ` Ankit Jain
2011-06-02 19:16   ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-01  9:51 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-02 19:55   ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-03 11:01     ` Joe Thornber [this message]
2011-06-03 15:54       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-06-07 17:50       ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-09  9:47         ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-09 16:08           ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-09 16:27             ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-06-10  8:44             ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10  9:28               ` Lars Ellenberg
2011-06-10 10:14                 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10 13:41                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-10 13:48                     ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10 16:13                       ` Lars Ellenberg
2011-06-10 13:51                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-06-11 20:27               ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-13  9:17                 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-13 21:06                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-14  8:34                     ` Joe Thornber

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