From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, "Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dm-kcopyd: introduce per-module throttle structure
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:54:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110603155431.GB30477@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110603110111.GA4969@ubuntu>
On Fri, Jun 03 2011 at 7:01am -0400,
Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 03:55:16PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > iv) you haven't explained how the sys admin works out the correct
> > > throttle value.
> >
> > There is no "correct" value. The "correct" value depends on how important
> > is copying itself v.s. other i/o.
>
> So who is going to set this? Do you really have no advice for them
> beyond 'there is no correct value'?
>
> > In theory (if disk scheduler were perfect), we wouldn't need any
> > throttling. The disk scheduler should recognize that the kcopyd process is
> > sending way more requests than any other process and should lower the
> > i/o priority of kcopyd process.
> >
> > In practice, the disk scheduler doesn't do it well, so kcopyd hurts the
> > users. If you want an automated fix, fix the disk scheduler. But don't put
> > disk scheduler logic into device mapper --- it dosn't belong there.
>
> I totally agree with these two paragraphs. Any throttling you add to
> kcopyd is always going to be a hack.
Wouldn't it be better to tie in to the block layer's new throttling
infrastructure that Vivek added? Possibly expose a callback that
enables kcopyd consuming devices to throttle kcopyd as a side-effect of
the higher-level throttle?
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-03 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-31 22:03 [PATCH 1/2] dm-kcopyd: introduce per-module throttle structure Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-01 6:18 ` Ankit Jain
2011-06-01 7:13 ` Ankit Jain
2011-06-02 19:16 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-01 9:51 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-02 19:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-03 11:01 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-03 15:54 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2011-06-07 17:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-09 9:47 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-09 16:08 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-09 16:27 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-06-10 8:44 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10 9:28 ` Lars Ellenberg
2011-06-10 10:14 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10 13:41 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-10 13:48 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-10 16:13 ` Lars Ellenberg
2011-06-10 13:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-06-11 20:27 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-13 9:17 ` Joe Thornber
2011-06-13 21:06 ` Mikulas Patocka
2011-06-14 8:34 ` Joe Thornber
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