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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
	kumar.gala@freescale.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] [v2] drivers/misc: introduce Freescale hypervisor management driver
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:28:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201106031728.43707.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110601172412.761ff799@schlenkerla.am.freescale.net>

On Thursday 02 June 2011, Scott Wood wrote:
> I wanted to have the hypervisor take an update dtb (we already have special
> meta-properties for things like deletion as part of the hv config
> mechanism).  But others on the project wanted to keep it simple, and so
> get/set property it was. :-/
> 
> It's unlikely to change at this point without a real need.
> 
> As for a filesystem interface, it's not a good match either. 
> You can't iterate over anything to read out the full tree from the hv.

kexec iterates over /proc/device-tree to create a dts blob.

> You can't delete anything. 

rm, rmdir

> You can't create empty nodes.

mkdir

> The hv interface was meant to enable some specific management actions,
> rather than to provide general device tree access.  This driver is a thin
> wrapper around the management hcalls.

A file system would be a slightly more abstract interface to do the
same thing, I gues.

> There would still be other ioctls needed for starting/stopping the
> partition, etc.

Right, although you could model them as a file interface as well.
KVMfs is one example doing that.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: greg@kroah.com, kumar.gala@freescale.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@kernel.org,
	linux-console@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] [v2] drivers/misc: introduce Freescale hypervisor management driver
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:28:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201106031728.43707.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110601172412.761ff799@schlenkerla.am.freescale.net>

On Thursday 02 June 2011, Scott Wood wrote:
> I wanted to have the hypervisor take an update dtb (we already have special
> meta-properties for things like deletion as part of the hv config
> mechanism).  But others on the project wanted to keep it simple, and so
> get/set property it was. :-/
> 
> It's unlikely to change at this point without a real need.
> 
> As for a filesystem interface, it's not a good match either. 
> You can't iterate over anything to read out the full tree from the hv.

kexec iterates over /proc/device-tree to create a dts blob.

> You can't delete anything. 

rm, rmdir

> You can't create empty nodes.

mkdir

> The hv interface was meant to enable some specific management actions,
> rather than to provide general device tree access.  This driver is a thin
> wrapper around the management hcalls.

A file system would be a slightly more abstract interface to do the
same thing, I gues.

> There would still be other ioctls needed for starting/stopping the
> partition, etc.

Right, although you could model them as a file interface as well.
KVMfs is one example doing that.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-03 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 18:35 [PATCH 7/7] [v2] drivers/misc: introduce Freescale hypervisor management driver Timur Tabi
2011-06-01 18:35 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-01 19:46 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 19:46   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 19:46   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 20:24   ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-01 20:24     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-01 20:24     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-01 20:34     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 20:34       ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 20:34       ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 20:54   ` Scott Wood
2011-06-01 20:54     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-01 20:54     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-01 21:45     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 21:45       ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 21:45       ` Alan Cox
2011-06-01 21:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-01 21:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-01 22:24   ` Scott Wood
2011-06-01 22:24     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-01 22:24     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-03 15:28     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-06-03 15:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-03 16:22       ` Scott Wood
2011-06-03 16:22         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-03 16:22         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-06 15:53         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 15:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 18:15           ` Scott Wood
2011-06-06 18:15             ` Scott Wood
2011-06-06 18:15             ` Scott Wood
2011-06-06 19:48             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 19:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-02 21:28   ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-02 21:28     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-02 21:28     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 15:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-03 15:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-03 15:28       ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 15:28         ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 15:28         ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 15:42         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 15:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 15:48           ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 15:48             ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 15:48             ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 16:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 16:09               ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:09                 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:09                 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:24                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 16:24                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 16:27                   ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:27                     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 16:27                     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-06 21:01                   ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-06 21:01                     ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-06 21:01                     ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-06 21:23                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-06-06 21:23                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-06-06 23:04                       ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-06 23:04                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-06 23:04                         ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-07  7:08                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-07  7:08                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-07 16:49                           ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-07 16:49                             ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-07 16:49                             ` Chris Metcalf
2011-06-07 19:16                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-07 19:16                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-07 19:20                               ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-07 19:20                                 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-07 19:20                                 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-07 19:34                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-07 19:34                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-03 14:44   ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 14:44     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 14:44     ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-03 15:17     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-03 15:17       ` Arnd Bergmann

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