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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [BUGFIX] update mm->owner even if no next owner.
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:39:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110611163943.GA3238@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1106110847190.29336@sister.anvils>

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:04:14AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> I had another go at reproducing it, 2 hours that time, then a try with
> 692e0b35427a reverted: it ran overnight for 9 hours when I stopped it.
> 
> Andrea, please would you ask Linus to revert that commit before -rc3?
> Or is there something else you'd like us to try instead?  I admit that
> I've not actually taken the time to think through exactly how it goes
> wrong, but it does look dangerous.

Here I was asked if the mem_cgroup_newpage_charge need the mmap_sem at
all. And if not why not to release the mmap_sem early.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/3/14/276

So I didn't see why mmap_sem was needed, I also asked confirmation and
who answered agreed it was safe without mmap_sem even if it's the only
place doing that. Maybe that assumption was wrong and we need
mmap_sem after all if this commit is causing problems.

Or did you find something wrong in the actual patch?

Do I understand right that the bug just that we must run
alloc_hugepage_vma+mem_cgroup_newpage_charge within the same critical
section protected by the mmap_sem read mode? Do we know why?

> The way I reproduce it is with my tmpfs kbuilds swapping load,
> in this case restricting mem by memcg, and (perhaps the important
> detail, not certain) doing concurrent swapoff/swapon repeatedly -
> swapoff takes another mm_users reference to the mm it's working on,
> which can cause surprises.

Ok.

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [BUGFIX] update mm->owner even if no next owner.
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:39:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110611163943.GA3238@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1106110847190.29336@sister.anvils>

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:04:14AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> I had another go at reproducing it, 2 hours that time, then a try with
> 692e0b35427a reverted: it ran overnight for 9 hours when I stopped it.
> 
> Andrea, please would you ask Linus to revert that commit before -rc3?
> Or is there something else you'd like us to try instead?  I admit that
> I've not actually taken the time to think through exactly how it goes
> wrong, but it does look dangerous.

Here I was asked if the mem_cgroup_newpage_charge need the mmap_sem at
all. And if not why not to release the mmap_sem early.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/3/14/276

So I didn't see why mmap_sem was needed, I also asked confirmation and
who answered agreed it was safe without mmap_sem even if it's the only
place doing that. Maybe that assumption was wrong and we need
mmap_sem after all if this commit is causing problems.

Or did you find something wrong in the actual patch?

Do I understand right that the bug just that we must run
alloc_hugepage_vma+mem_cgroup_newpage_charge within the same critical
section protected by the mmap_sem read mode? Do we know why?

> The way I reproduce it is with my tmpfs kbuilds swapping load,
> in this case restricting mem by memcg, and (perhaps the important
> detail, not certain) doing concurrent swapoff/swapon repeatedly -
> swapoff takes another mm_users reference to the mm it's working on,
> which can cause surprises.

Ok.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-11 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-09 21:29 3.0rc2 oops in mem_cgroup_from_task Dave Jones
2011-06-09 22:47 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:47   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:42   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:42     ` Ying Han
2011-06-10  0:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  1:30       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-10  1:30         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-10  2:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  2:33           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  3:19           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  3:19             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  3:55             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  3:55               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  4:30               ` [PATCH] [BUGFIX] update mm->owner even if no next owner KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  4:30                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  5:06                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-06-10  5:06                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-06-10  5:21                 ` Xiaotian Feng
2011-06-10  5:22                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  5:22                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10 21:49                 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-10 23:54                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10 23:54                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-11 17:51                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-11 17:51                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-11 18:44                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-11 18:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-11 23:04                         ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-11 23:04                           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-13  1:41                       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-13  1:54                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-13  1:54                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-13 14:03                           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-13 14:03                             ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-11  0:46                   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-11  0:46                     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-11 16:04                     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-11 16:39                       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2011-06-11 16:39                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-11 18:04                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-11 18:04                           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-11  8:19 ` 3.0rc2 oops in mem_cgroup_from_task Michal Hocko
2011-06-11  8:19   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-11 15:46   ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-11 15:46     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-12  9:09     ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-12  9:09       ` Michal Hocko

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