From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Nao Nishijima <nao.nishijima.xt@hitachi.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jcm@redhat.com, hare@suse.de, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de,
yrl.pp-manager.tt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] genhd: add a new attribute in device structure
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:22:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110617162247.GA16261@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinMzyQWZvxiRw4tvZBwW5xsxvMz-Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:12:14PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 17:39, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 16:49, James Bottomley
>
> >> So this is subsystem specific. For the case of a SCSI enclosure, I can
> >> answer that it's actually burned into the enclosure firmware. When you
> >> build an enclosure with labels, the label names are stored in a
> >> diagnostic page. We can actually interrogate the enclosure directly or
> >> use the ses driver to get these names mapped to current devices.
> >
> > To me this sounds like a nice name on top of the current bunch of
> > names, not like a 'preferred' name.
> >
> > I still don't like to introduce any new facility to the kernel that
> > can handle only one single name. Reality the last years has taught us
> > a very different story, and we've walked a long way to get where we
> > are. I really don't believe single names will ever work, it's just a
> > nice theory.
>
> I might need to clarify this a bit.
>
> I have no problem in general to add a 'alias' to every disk, and use
> that when stuff is logged. Just the same way the netifs have an alias.
> Sure, it might be useful for some use cases. And if that helps to
> solve any real problem, we should just do it.
>
> I just want to make clear, that I don't think that it is anywhere near
> to a solution for the problems which are described here. And that
> nobody should see this as an excuse not to get their stuff together
> and work on the problem, which is that we don't have machine-readable
> error and debug from the kernel and a smart syslog.
>
> If we had that, I'm very sure nobody would even ask for a 'pretty
> name' in the kernel, and I think that is a good indication that we are
> not on the right track here.
And I totally agree here, which is why I don't want to accept this
change to the driver core to add this, as it's not the correct solution.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-17 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-15 8:16 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Persistent device name using preferred name Nao Nishijima
2011-06-15 8:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] genhd: add a new attribute in device structure Nao Nishijima
2011-06-15 14:43 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-15 15:33 ` Greg KH
2011-06-16 12:03 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-16 15:41 ` Greg KH
2011-06-16 15:50 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-16 16:14 ` Greg KH
2011-06-16 16:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-16 17:09 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-16 17:20 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-16 18:00 ` Douglas Gilbert
2011-06-16 18:05 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-16 18:15 ` Douglas Gilbert
2011-06-16 18:31 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-16 21:25 ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-17 6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-17 6:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-17 12:28 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-17 12:28 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-17 11:36 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-16 18:19 ` Greg KH
2011-06-16 20:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-16 22:05 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-16 22:45 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-16 23:04 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 11:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-06-17 14:30 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 14:27 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-17 14:40 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 14:49 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-17 15:39 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 15:39 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 16:12 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 16:22 ` Greg KH [this message]
2011-06-18 19:40 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-18 19:55 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-21 4:51 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-21 4:51 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-19 1:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-06-19 4:14 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-17 6:55 ` Stefan Richter
2011-06-17 5:25 ` Greg KH
2011-06-17 15:41 ` Douglas Gilbert
2011-06-17 15:57 ` Kay Sievers
2011-06-17 3:33 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-06-17 5:22 ` Greg KH
2011-06-17 8:15 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-06-16 17:32 ` Douglas Gilbert
2011-06-16 18:02 ` Al Viro
2011-06-16 22:48 ` James Bottomley
2011-06-15 8:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] sd: print preferred name in kernel messages Nao Nishijima
2011-06-15 8:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] fs: print preferred name in procfs messages Nao Nishijima
2011-06-15 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Persistent device name using preferred name Greg KH
2011-06-17 5:58 ` Nao Nishijima
2011-06-17 5:58 ` Nao Nishijima
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