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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, apparmor@lists.ubuntu.com,
	"selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Stephen Smalley" <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, serge@hallyn.com
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC v2] security: intoduce ptrace_task_may_access_current
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:44:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110620154429.GA12879@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110620150001.GF12469@mail.hallyn.com>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:00 -0500, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > >diff --git a/kernel/capability.c b/kernel/capability.c
> > >index 283c529..bc9b07f 100644
> > >--- a/kernel/capability.c
> > >+++ b/kernel/capability.c
> > >@@ -356,6 +356,30 @@ bool capable(int cap)
> > >  }
> > >  EXPORT_SYMBOL(capable);
> > >
> > >+bool task_capable(struct task_struct *task, int cap)
> > >+{
> > >+	return ns_task_capable(task,&init_user_ns, cap);
> > >+}
> > >+EXPORT_SYMBOL(task_capable);
> > 
> > Why do we keep adding things like task_capable?  Can't we just stop
> > adding non-lsm functions and just call the right LSM functions from
> > now on?  This is my original comments mostly directed at Serge.  I'm
> > to the point where I want to NAK anything new in kernel/capability.c
> > (and yes, I know i'm guilty in the paste)
> > 
> > >+bool ns_task_capable(struct task_struct *task, struct user_namespace *ns, int cap)
> 
> Can you just use has_ns_capability() at the places where you wanted to
> use your new ns_task_capable()?  It won't set PF_SUPERPRIV, but you
> can't set that on another task anyway IIRC.

has_ns_capability() doesn't touch LSMs, but ns_task_capable() uses
security_task_capable() which uses LSMs.

Actually, I'm a bit confused in sense of what capable functions should
be used in specific cases.  Where we need to inform LSM and where not.
I don't want to bypass LSMs where it should not do it otherwise.  In the
patch I've copied alredy existing behaviour leaving LSM iteraction
as-is.


Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, apparmor@lists.ubuntu.com,
	"selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Stephen Smalley" <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, serge@hallyn.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] security: intoduce ptrace_task_may_access_current
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:44:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110620154429.GA12879@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110620150001.GF12469@mail.hallyn.com>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:00 -0500, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > >diff --git a/kernel/capability.c b/kernel/capability.c
> > >index 283c529..bc9b07f 100644
> > >--- a/kernel/capability.c
> > >+++ b/kernel/capability.c
> > >@@ -356,6 +356,30 @@ bool capable(int cap)
> > >  }
> > >  EXPORT_SYMBOL(capable);
> > >
> > >+bool task_capable(struct task_struct *task, int cap)
> > >+{
> > >+	return ns_task_capable(task,&init_user_ns, cap);
> > >+}
> > >+EXPORT_SYMBOL(task_capable);
> > 
> > Why do we keep adding things like task_capable?  Can't we just stop
> > adding non-lsm functions and just call the right LSM functions from
> > now on?  This is my original comments mostly directed at Serge.  I'm
> > to the point where I want to NAK anything new in kernel/capability.c
> > (and yes, I know i'm guilty in the paste)
> > 
> > >+bool ns_task_capable(struct task_struct *task, struct user_namespace *ns, int cap)
> 
> Can you just use has_ns_capability() at the places where you wanted to
> use your new ns_task_capable()?  It won't set PF_SUPERPRIV, but you
> can't set that on another task anyway IIRC.

has_ns_capability() doesn't touch LSMs, but ns_task_capable() uses
security_task_capable() which uses LSMs.

Actually, I'm a bit confused in sense of what capable functions should
be used in specific cases.  Where we need to inform LSM and where not.
I don't want to bypass LSMs where it should not do it otherwise.  In the
patch I've copied alredy existing behaviour leaving LSM iteraction
as-is.


Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-20 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-17 17:11 [kernel-hardening] [RFC v2] security: intoduce ptrace_task_may_access_current Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-17 17:11 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 14:22 ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Paris
2011-06-20 14:22   ` Eric Paris
2011-06-20 14:40   ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 14:40     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 14:43   ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 14:43     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 14:44     ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Paris
2011-06-20 14:44       ` Eric Paris
2011-06-20 15:00   ` [kernel-hardening] " Serge Hallyn
2011-06-20 15:00     ` Serge Hallyn
2011-06-20 15:44     ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-06-20 15:44       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-06-20 15:51       ` [kernel-hardening] " Serge E. Hallyn
2011-06-20 15:51         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-06-20 16:50     ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Paris
2011-06-20 16:50       ` Eric Paris

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