[Printing-architecture] Nokia is loaning out N950 devkits, I've applied, does anyone else have meego hardware?

[Printing-architecture] Nokia is loaning out N950 devkits, I've applied, does anyone else have meego hardware?

[Daniel Dressler]

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Hello everyone,

I noticed today that Nokia is taking applications for N950 devkits. This
devkit is special because it runs Meego. Meego being a purer linux stack vs
android.

My thoughts being that a hardware meego device would be helpful for CPD on
mobile and I would like to investigate the meego printing stack. Personally
I want to see Meego succeed because it is very similar to linux as we know
on it on the desktop and as such the development environment is very similar
to what you would use for QT on the desktop.

Nokia is offering these units with the intention of filling the meego app
store. I have an application that is almost ready to be shipped so I've
applied for a load unit hopfully that is good enough to get a unit.

I know Intel had dev units of native meego hardware a while ago, did anyone
get one of these? Has anyone had contact with the meego project or
experience with their printing stack?

Daniel

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Re: [Printing-architecture] Nokia is loaning out N950 devkits, I've applied, does anyone else have meego hardware?

[Hal V. Engel]

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On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 02:01:18 PM Daniel Dressler wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I noticed today that Nokia is taking applications for N950 devkits. This
> devkit is special because it runs Meego. Meego being a purer linux stack vs
> android.
> 
> My thoughts being that a hardware meego device would be helpful for CPD on
> mobile and I would like to investigate the meego printing stack. Personally
> I want to see Meego succeed because it is very similar to linux as we know
> on it on the desktop and as such the development environment is very
> similar to what you would use for QT on the desktop.
> 
> Nokia is offering these units with the intention of filling the meego app
> store. I have an application that is almost ready to be shipped so I've
> applied for a load unit hopfully that is good enough to get a unit.
> 
> I know Intel had dev units of native meego hardware a while ago, did anyone
> get one of these? Has anyone had contact with the meego project or
> experience with their printing stack?
> 
> Daniel

I have had a little contact with Intel's Meego team manager but I do not have 
any technical details.  I am under the impression that Intel sort of backed 
away from meego when Nokia went with WinPhone.  I do know that Intel stopped 
hiring programmers to work on meego about that time.

I would expect that the printing stack at the UI level is the more or less 
stock Qt components but the lower levels of that stack I don't know.  I am 
under the impression that the Intel/Nokia deal was that Intel would do all of 
the apps and UI stuff and Nokia would do all of the systems stuff.

Hal

Hal

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Re: [Printing-architecture] Nokia is loaning out N950 devkits, I've applied, does anyone else have meego hardware?

[Daniel Dressler]

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Yeah reality is not being very kind to linux on the mobile. We might have to
wait until 2012 to celebrate the year of linux on the mobile.

Nokia's switch to windows likely did cause problem for Intel, but publicly
Intel has said that they are still committed. Personally my take is that
Intel has heavy interests in Meego succeeding. With mobiles encroaching on
laptops and Win 8 shipping on ARM Intel wants their chips on mobile devices.
So far the only mobile devices using intel's stuff have been Win7 tablets.
Android works on x86 but ARM system on chips dominate android development.

Nokia may be gone as a long term proponent but they should ship a few
million units of their N9. I also hold out hope that Nokia switches back to
Meego. Their Win7 phones are a ways off and their current options for
smartphones are to ship more symbian or ship another meego after the N9.
Win7 phone isn't exactly doing well either, Samsung's Bada is already
outselling it.

The future will definitely be interesting to see what happens in the mobile
space. I doubt meego will displace Android or iOS with Nokia gone but I
think Meego will be able to carve out a niche.

Daniel

2011/6/21 Hal V. Engel <hvengel@gmail.com>

> **
>
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 02:01:18 PM Daniel Dressler wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
>
> >
>
> > I noticed today that Nokia is taking applications for N950 devkits. This
>
> > devkit is special because it runs Meego. Meego being a purer linux stack
> vs
>
> > android.
>
> >
>
> > My thoughts being that a hardware meego device would be helpful for CPD
> on
>
> > mobile and I would like to investigate the meego printing stack.
> Personally
>
> > I want to see Meego succeed because it is very similar to linux as we
> know
>
> > on it on the desktop and as such the development environment is very
>
> > similar to what you would use for QT on the desktop.
>
> >
>
> > Nokia is offering these units with the intention of filling the meego app
>
> > store. I have an application that is almost ready to be shipped so I've
>
> > applied for a load unit hopfully that is good enough to get a unit.
>
> >
>
> > I know Intel had dev units of native meego hardware a while ago, did
> anyone
>
> > get one of these? Has anyone had contact with the meego project or
>
> > experience with their printing stack?
>
> >
>
> > Daniel
>
>
> I have had a little contact with Intel's Meego team manager but I do not
> have any technical details. I am under the impression that Intel sort of
> backed away from meego when Nokia went with WinPhone. I do know that Intel
> stopped hiring programmers to work on meego about that time.
>
>
> I would expect that the printing stack at the UI level is the more or less
> stock Qt components but the lower levels of that stack I don't know. I am
> under the impression that the Intel/Nokia deal was that Intel would do all
> of the apps and UI stuff and Nokia would do all of the systems stuff.
>
>
> Hal
>
>
> Hal
>
>
>
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Re: [Printing-architecture] Nokia is loaning out N950 devkits, I've applied, does anyone else have meego hardware?

[John Layt]

On Tuesday 21 Jun 2011 23:47:42 Hal V. Engel wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 02:01:18 PM Daniel Dressler wrote:
> > I know Intel had dev units of native meego hardware a while ago, did
> > anyone get one of these? Has anyone had contact with the meego project
> > or experience with their printing stack?

I haven't looked at Meego, but it appears to have CUPS in the Core Software 
Platform, but whether that's also in the Mobile profile I don't know. The api 
would definately be Qt however.

That said, you don't need specific hardware to try out printing in Meego, it 
runs fine in a VM.  Hardware is really only needed if you're doing stuff that 
requires the touch-screen or other hardware features.

> I have had a little contact with Intel's Meego team manager but I do not
> have any technical details.  I am under the impression that Intel sort of
> backed away from meego when Nokia went with WinPhone.  I do know that
> Intel stopped hiring programmers to work on meego about that time.

Well, I know they are hiring people in Oslo from Nokia to work on Qt for 
Meego, and the story they are telling those of us in the Qt community is they 
are still as committed as they were before the Elopocalypse.  In fact, they 
almost seemed relieved that Nokia has backed off as it allows Meego to develop 
more openly and naturally rather being rushed into the role of saviour of 
Nokia.

> I would expect that the printing stack at the UI level is the more or less
> stock Qt components but the lower levels of that stack I don't know.  I am
> under the impression that the Intel/Nokia deal was that Intel would do all
> of the apps and UI stuff and Nokia would do all of the systems stuff.

Actually, my impression is it's a mixture, Intel doing the core OS and x86 
support, Nokia doing arm support and the Qt api to wrap around the core, and 
both sides using Qt to create their own UX for their own products.  Nokia are 
certainly not contributing anything to the reference UX's as their one is/was 
top-secret.

Anyway, directly related to this is that I've just got back from the Qt 
Contributors Summit where I lead a session on the future of printing in Qt, 
but I'll start a separate thread for that.

Cheers!

John.