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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Greg Banks <gnb@fastmail.fm>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sunrpc: use better NUMA affinities
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:06:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110802010635.GA16305@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110730093025.716f3f50@notabene.brown>

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:30:25AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:34:44 +1000 Greg Banks <gnb@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > The "killall nfsd" semantics in those scripts are awful and lead to  
> > problems shutting down when there are lots of threads. It would  
> > probably be an improvement to provide a better shutdown mechanism and  
> > force distros to use it.
> 
> rpc.nfsd 0
> 
> will stop all nfsd threads.  Follow with
> 
>   exportfs -f
> 
> and you should be done.  I'm not 100% sure about the nfsv4 thread though -
> would need to check.
> 
> And yes - I would love it if distros could standardise on start/stop scripts
> so upstreams could maintain them sensibly.  This is my personal number 1
> reason for liking systemd - it pushes for this standardisation.

I can't remember if this is getting fixed in Fedora--probably not.  We
should fix it.

I'd also be fine with logging a deprecation message when someone signals
an nfsd thread.

> > Or, you could preserve the effective semantics by having a single  
> > "nfsd" thread whose purpose is to notice that it's being signalled and  
> > perform a clean shutdown (perhaps blocking the thread doing the kill()  
> > call until the shutdown has completed).
> 
> That's kinda neat.  It would be an ugly wart to have to keep around, but
> sometimes that the price we pay for "no regressions".

Yep; patch welcomed.

--b.

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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Greg Banks <gnb-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Dumazet
	<eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sunrpc: use better NUMA affinities
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:06:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110802010635.GA16305@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110730093025.716f3f50-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:30:25AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:34:44 +1000 Greg Banks <gnb-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > The "killall nfsd" semantics in those scripts are awful and lead to  
> > problems shutting down when there are lots of threads. It would  
> > probably be an improvement to provide a better shutdown mechanism and  
> > force distros to use it.
> 
> rpc.nfsd 0
> 
> will stop all nfsd threads.  Follow with
> 
>   exportfs -f
> 
> and you should be done.  I'm not 100% sure about the nfsv4 thread though -
> would need to check.
> 
> And yes - I would love it if distros could standardise on start/stop scripts
> so upstreams could maintain them sensibly.  This is my personal number 1
> reason for liking systemd - it pushes for this standardisation.

I can't remember if this is getting fixed in Fedora--probably not.  We
should fix it.

I'd also be fine with logging a deprecation message when someone signals
an nfsd thread.

> > Or, you could preserve the effective semantics by having a single  
> > "nfsd" thread whose purpose is to notice that it's being signalled and  
> > perform a clean shutdown (perhaps blocking the thread doing the kill()  
> > call until the shutdown has completed).
> 
> That's kinda neat.  It would be an ugly wart to have to keep around, but
> sometimes that the price we pay for "no regressions".

Yep; patch welcomed.

--b.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-02  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110729153207.17af3085@notabene.brown>
2011-07-29  6:05 ` Fw: [PATCH] sunrpc: use better NUMA affinities Greg Banks
2011-07-29  6:30   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29  6:30     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29  6:53     ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29  6:53       ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 10:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-29 10:36         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-29 11:58         ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 12:11           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 13:30             ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 13:30               ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 13:30               ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 16:48               ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 16:48                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 16:53                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 18:15                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 18:15                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 20:34                   ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 20:34                     ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 23:30                     ` NeilBrown
2011-07-29 23:30                       ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                       ` <20110730093025.716f3f50-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-29 23:48                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 23:48                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 23:48                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-30  4:08                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-30  4:08                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-30  4:08                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-30  6:06                             ` NeilBrown
2011-07-30  6:06                               ` NeilBrown
2011-07-30  6:23                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-30  6:23                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-31  6:58                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-31  6:58                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-08-27  0:02                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-08-28 10:02                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-08-28 10:02                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-08-02  1:06                       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2011-08-02  1:06                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 16:45       ` Fw: " J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 20:24         ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 16:48   ` Fw: " J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 16:48     ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-28 18:04 Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 16:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 16:42   ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 18:02   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 18:02     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-29 18:08     ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 18:08       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-07-29 20:39       ` Greg Banks
2011-07-29 20:39         ` Greg Banks
2011-08-05 21:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-08-05 21:28   ` J. Bruce Fields

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