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From: grant.likely@secretlab.ca (Grant Likely)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] arm/mx5: parse iomuxc pad configuratoin from device tree
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:58:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110805225845.GC6404@ponder.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKGA1bmbWUeyhUtDwHZjB8V4e2wJ0NHX2qWhqaqx6HoBm7uMnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:07:15PM -0500, Matt Sealey wrote:
> Hi Grant, Shawn,
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
> > This could get really verbose in a really big hurry. ?Fortunately the
> > dtb format is sophisticated enough to only store each unique property
> > name once, so the data shouldn't be huge, but it is still going to
> > make for huge source files. ?Can you think of a more concise
> > representation?
> 
> Yes: no representation at all. The correct place for IOMUX setup being
> done is *inside the boot firmware as soon as physically possible* and
> not seconds into boot after U-Boot has made a console, done a boot
> timeout, loaded scripts, kernels and ramdisks from media and then
> uncompressed and entered a Linux kernel.

We've had this argument before.  There are many use cases where the
firmware simply cannot be relied upon to do the right thing.

g.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: Matt Sealey <matt@genesi-usa.com>
Cc: devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm/mx5: parse iomuxc pad configuratoin from device tree
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:58:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110805225845.GC6404@ponder.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKGA1bmbWUeyhUtDwHZjB8V4e2wJ0NHX2qWhqaqx6HoBm7uMnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:07:15PM -0500, Matt Sealey wrote:
> Hi Grant, Shawn,
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
> > This could get really verbose in a really big hurry.  Fortunately the
> > dtb format is sophisticated enough to only store each unique property
> > name once, so the data shouldn't be huge, but it is still going to
> > make for huge source files.  Can you think of a more concise
> > representation?
> 
> Yes: no representation at all. The correct place for IOMUX setup being
> done is *inside the boot firmware as soon as physically possible* and
> not seconds into boot after U-Boot has made a console, done a boot
> timeout, loaded scripts, kernels and ramdisks from media and then
> uncompressed and entered a Linux kernel.

We've had this argument before.  There are many use cases where the
firmware simply cannot be relied upon to do the right thing.

g.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-05 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-25 15:07 [PATCH 0/2] Add device tree support for i.mx53 boards Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 15:07 ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 15:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm/mx5: parse iomuxc pad configuratoin from device tree Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 15:07   ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 20:46   ` Grant Likely
2011-07-25 20:46     ` Grant Likely
2011-07-26  2:43     ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26  2:43       ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26  6:29       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26  6:29         ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26 16:34         ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26 16:34           ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-31  4:02       ` Grant Likely
2011-07-31  4:02         ` Grant Likely
2011-07-26 11:19     ` Eric Miao
2011-07-26 11:19       ` Eric Miao
2011-08-04 23:07     ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-04 23:07       ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-05  7:07       ` David Brown
2011-08-05  7:07         ` David Brown
2011-08-05 18:36         ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-05 18:36           ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-05 20:26           ` Scott Wood
2011-08-05 20:26             ` Scott Wood
2011-08-05 20:36             ` David Brown
2011-08-05 20:36               ` David Brown
2011-08-05 21:29               ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-05 21:29                 ` Matt Sealey
2011-08-05 21:48                 ` Scott Wood
2011-08-05 21:48                   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-06 17:41           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-06 17:41             ` Grant Likely
2011-08-07 16:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-07 16:23             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-05 22:58       ` Grant Likely [this message]
2011-08-05 22:58         ` Grant Likely
2011-08-05 23:31         ` Mitch Bradley
2011-08-05 23:31           ` Mitch Bradley
2011-08-06  3:47           ` Mark Brown
2011-08-06  3:47             ` Mark Brown
2011-08-07 11:15       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-08-07 11:15         ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26  6:31   ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26  6:31     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26 16:39     ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26 16:39       ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26  6:39   ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26  6:39     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-07-26 16:41     ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-26 16:41       ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 15:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm/mx5: add device tree support for imx53 boards Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 15:07   ` Shawn Guo
2011-07-25 20:57   ` Grant Likely
2011-07-25 20:57     ` Grant Likely

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