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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #5
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 02:20:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110902002013.GJ10779@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901234527.GD7761@one.firstfloor.org>

On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:45:27AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 04:28:08PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:24:17 +0200
> > Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ideally direct-io should stop calling get_page() on pages
> > > returned by get_user_pages().
> > 
> > Yeah.  get_user_pages() is sufficient.  Ideally we should be able to
> > undo the get_user_pages() get_page() from within the IO completion
> > interrupt and we're done.
> > 
> > Cc Andi, who is our resident dio tweaker ;)
>
> Noted, I'll put it on my list.

Thanks Andi!

> Should not be too difficult from a quick look, just the convoluted
> nature of direct-io.c requires a lot of double checking.

I also had a look but it wasn't trivial, I'm not even sure why
direct-io.c has to be convoluted.

If we could optimize that, we would stay within get_page_foll() which
won't need to take the compound_lock even for tail
pages. (compound_lock can't be avoided for put_page on tail pages
because it runs long after we release any VM lock)

Calling get_page/put_pages more times than necessary is never ideal, I
imagine the biggest cost is the atomic_inc on the head page that
brings in the cacheline of the head page exclusive, the compound_lock
in the second get_page shouldn't have a measurable effect, so I think
from a practical prospective it's not more worthwhile to optimize
that now, than it already was before.

> Cc Andi, who is our resident dio tweaker ;)

Thanks :)

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #5
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 02:20:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110902002013.GJ10779@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901234527.GD7761@one.firstfloor.org>

On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:45:27AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 04:28:08PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:24:17 +0200
> > Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ideally direct-io should stop calling get_page() on pages
> > > returned by get_user_pages().
> > 
> > Yeah.  get_user_pages() is sufficient.  Ideally we should be able to
> > undo the get_user_pages() get_page() from within the IO completion
> > interrupt and we're done.
> > 
> > Cc Andi, who is our resident dio tweaker ;)
>
> Noted, I'll put it on my list.

Thanks Andi!

> Should not be too difficult from a quick look, just the convoluted
> nature of direct-io.c requires a lot of double checking.

I also had a look but it wasn't trivial, I'm not even sure why
direct-io.c has to be convoluted.

If we could optimize that, we would stay within get_page_foll() which
won't need to take the compound_lock even for tail
pages. (compound_lock can't be avoided for put_page on tail pages
because it runs long after we release any VM lock)

Calling get_page/put_pages more times than necessary is never ideal, I
imagine the biggest cost is the atomic_inc on the head page that
brings in the cacheline of the head page exclusive, the compound_lock
in the second get_page shouldn't have a measurable effect, so I think
from a practical prospective it's not more worthwhile to optimize
that now, than it already was before.

> Cc Andi, who is our resident dio tweaker ;)

Thanks :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-02  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-19  7:48 [PATCH 0/9] Use RCU to stabilize page counts Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: rcu read lock for getting reference on pages in migration_entry_wait() Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: avoid calling get_page_unless_zero() when charging cgroups Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: rcu read lock when getting from tail to head page Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: use get_page in deactivate_page() Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 5/9] kvm: use get_page instead of get_page_unless_zero Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: assert that get_page_unless_zero() callers hold the rcu lock Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19 23:28   ` Andi Kleen
2011-08-19 23:28     ` Andi Kleen
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 7/9] rcu: rcu_get_gp_cookie() / rcu_gp_cookie_elapsed() stand-ins Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: add API for setting a grace period cookie on compound pages Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: make sure tail page counts are stable before splitting THP pages Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:48   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:53 ` [PATCH 0/9] Use RCU to stabilize page counts Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-19  7:53   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-22 21:33 ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-22 21:33   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-23 14:55   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-23 14:55     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-23 16:45   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-23 16:45     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-23 16:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-23 16:54       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-23 19:52   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-23 19:52     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-24  0:09     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-24  0:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-24  0:27       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-24  0:27         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-24 13:34         ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #2 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-24 13:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26  6:24           ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-26  6:24             ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-26 16:10             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26 16:10               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26 18:54               ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #3 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26 18:54                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-27  9:41                 ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-27  9:41                   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-27 17:34                   ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #4 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-27 17:34                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-29  4:20                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-29  4:20                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-09-01 15:24                       ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #5 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-01 15:24                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-01 22:27                         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-01 22:27                           ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-01 23:28                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 23:28                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 23:45                           ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-01 23:45                             ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-02  0:20                             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2011-09-02  0:20                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-02  1:17                               ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-02  1:17                                 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-02  0:03                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02  0:03                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 16:51                           ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #6 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-08 16:51                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-23 15:57                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-23 15:57                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-30 13:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-09-30 13:58                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:37                               ` thp: gup_fast ppc tail refcounting [was Re: [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #6] Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:37                               ` [PATCH 1/4] powerpc: remove superfluous PageTail checks on the pte gup_fast Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:37                               ` [PATCH 2/4] powerpc: get_hugepte() don't put_page() the wrong page Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:37                               ` [PATCH 3/4] powerpc: gup_hugepte() avoid to free the head page too many times Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:37                               ` [PATCH 4/4] powerpc: gup_hugepte() support THP based tail recounting Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                               ` thp: gup_fast ppc tail refcounting [was Re: [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #6] Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                               ` [PATCH 1/4] powerpc: remove superfluous PageTail checks on the pte gup_fast Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                               ` [PATCH 2/4] powerpc: get_hugepte() don't put_page() the wrong page Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                               ` [PATCH 3/4] powerpc: gup_hugepte() avoid to free the head page too many times Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                               ` [PATCH 4/4] powerpc: gup_hugepte() support THP based tail recounting Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 20:40                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                               ` thp: gup_fast s390/sparc tail refcounting [was Re: [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #6] Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                 ` [PATCH 1/3] s390: gup_huge_pmd() support THP tail recounting Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                 ` [PATCH 2/3] sparc: gup_pte_range() support THP based " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 22:44                                   ` David Miller
2011-10-17 22:44                                     ` David Miller
2011-10-17 14:41                                 ` [PATCH 3/3] thp: share get_huge_page_tail() Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 14:41                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                               ` fix two more s390/sparc gup_fast bugs Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] s390: gup_huge_pmd() return 0 if pte changes Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] powerpc: " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 21:32                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-29 22:40                     ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #4 Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-29 22:40                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-29 23:30                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-29 23:30                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26 19:28             ` [PATCH] thp: tail page refcounting fix #2 Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-26 19:28               ` Andrea Arcangeli

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