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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:18:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110907011846.GB6513@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907002222.GF31945@quack.suse.cz>

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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:22:22AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 06-09-11 18:18:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 09:53 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > De-account the accumulative dirty counters on page redirty.
> > > 
> > > Page redirties (very common in ext4) will introduce mismatch between
> > > counters (a) and (b)
> > > 
> > > a) NR_DIRTIED, BDI_DIRTIED, tsk->nr_dirtied
> > > b) NR_WRITTEN, BDI_WRITTEN
> > > 
> > > This will introduce systematic errors in balanced_rate and result in
> > > dirty page position errors (ie. the dirty pages are no longer balanced
> > > around the global/bdi setpoints).
> > > 
> > 
> > So wtf is ext4 doing? Shouldn't a page stay dirty until its written out?
> > 
> > That is, should we really frob around this behaviour or fix ext4 because
> > its on crack?
>   Fengguang, could you please verify your findings with recent kernel? I
> believe ext4 got fixed in this regard some time ago already (and yes, old
> delalloc writeback code in ext4 was terrible).

Jan, attached is the results for 3.1-rc4, before and after this patchset.
The test case is ext4, 1 dd, bs=4k, dirty_bytes=1GB.

Judging from global_dirtied_written.png, the dirtied/written lines are
still departing away from each other...

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-04  1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-05 15:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06  2:10       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-05 15:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06  2:43       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-06 18:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08  2:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-08  2:53       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12  5:44   ` Nai Xia
2011-11-12  5:44     ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 15:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:27       ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34       ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34         ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  7:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  7:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  1:04     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  1:04       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  7:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 11:00           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 12:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:46     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  2:46       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 14:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 12:31       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-12 10:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28 14:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:32                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29  3:32                     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29  8:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  8:49                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:05                         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 14:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  2:37       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  7:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  7:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 14:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  2:35       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-12 10:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:23           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 15:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  2:02     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  2:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-12 10:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  9:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  9:06       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07  0:17   ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  0:17     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  9:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 16:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  0:22     ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  0:22       ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07  1:18       ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-09-07  6:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07  6:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07  8:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07  8:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42           ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:42             ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07 16:46               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08  8:51               ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-08  8:51                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04  1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04  1:53   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-07 19:14     ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-28 14:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29  4:11   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29  4:11     ` Wu Fengguang

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