From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: "kautuk.c @samsung.com" <consul.kautuk@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: remove sysctl to manually rescue unevictable pages
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:18:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110926141834.GD14333@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFPAmTQPiHU8AKnQvzMM5KiQr1GnUY+Yf8PwVC6++QK8u149Ew@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 05:40:52PM +0530, kautuk.c @samsung.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 04:29:40PM +0530, Kautuk Consul wrote:
> >> write_scan_unavictable_node checks the value req returned by
> >> strict_strtoul and returns 1 if req is 0.
> >>
> >> However, when strict_strtoul returns 0, it means successful conversion
> >> of buf to unsigned long.
> >>
> >> Due to this, the function was not proceeding to scan the zones for
> >> unevictable pages even though we write a valid value to the
> >> scan_unevictable_pages sys file.
> >
> > Given that there is not a real reason for this knob (anymore) and that
> > it apparently never really worked since the day it was introduced, how
> > about we just drop all that code instead?
> >
> > Hannes
> >
> > ---
> > From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > Subject: mm: remove sysctl to manually rescue unevictable pages
> >
> > At one point, anonymous pages were supposed to go on the unevictable
> > list when no swap space was configured, and the idea was to manually
> > rescue those pages after adding swap and making them evictable again.
> > But nowadays, swap-backed pages on the anon LRU list are not scanned
> > without available swap space anyway, so there is no point in moving
> > them to a separate list anymore.
>
> Is this code only for anonymous pages ?
> It seems to look at all pages in the zone both file as well as anon.
The code scans both, but the usecase I described was moving swapbacked
pages from the unevictable list after configuring swap space.
> > The manual rescue could also be used in case pages were stranded on
> > the unevictable list due to race conditions. But the code has been
> > around for a while now and newly discovered bugs should be properly
> > reported and dealt with instead of relying on such a manual fixup.
>
> What you say seems to be all right for anon pages, but what about file
> pages ?
> I'm not sure about how this could happen, but what if some file-system caused
> a file cache page to be set to evictable or reclaimable without
> actually removing
> that page from the unevictable list ?
Currently, unevictable file pages come from ramfs, shmem, and mlock.
ramfs never makes them evictable. shmem, after making an inode
evictable again, scans the that inode's address_space and rescues the
pages it finds. munlock synchroneously rescues the pages vma's range.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: "kautuk.c @samsung.com" <consul.kautuk@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: remove sysctl to manually rescue unevictable pages
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:18:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110926141834.GD14333@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFPAmTQPiHU8AKnQvzMM5KiQr1GnUY+Yf8PwVC6++QK8u149Ew@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 05:40:52PM +0530, kautuk.c @samsung.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 04:29:40PM +0530, Kautuk Consul wrote:
> >> write_scan_unavictable_node checks the value req returned by
> >> strict_strtoul and returns 1 if req is 0.
> >>
> >> However, when strict_strtoul returns 0, it means successful conversion
> >> of buf to unsigned long.
> >>
> >> Due to this, the function was not proceeding to scan the zones for
> >> unevictable pages even though we write a valid value to the
> >> scan_unevictable_pages sys file.
> >
> > Given that there is not a real reason for this knob (anymore) and that
> > it apparently never really worked since the day it was introduced, how
> > about we just drop all that code instead?
> >
> > Hannes
> >
> > ---
> > From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > Subject: mm: remove sysctl to manually rescue unevictable pages
> >
> > At one point, anonymous pages were supposed to go on the unevictable
> > list when no swap space was configured, and the idea was to manually
> > rescue those pages after adding swap and making them evictable again.
> > But nowadays, swap-backed pages on the anon LRU list are not scanned
> > without available swap space anyway, so there is no point in moving
> > them to a separate list anymore.
>
> Is this code only for anonymous pages ?
> It seems to look at all pages in the zone both file as well as anon.
The code scans both, but the usecase I described was moving swapbacked
pages from the unevictable list after configuring swap space.
> > The manual rescue could also be used in case pages were stranded on
> > the unevictable list due to race conditions. But the code has been
> > around for a while now and newly discovered bugs should be properly
> > reported and dealt with instead of relying on such a manual fixup.
>
> What you say seems to be all right for anon pages, but what about file
> pages ?
> I'm not sure about how this could happen, but what if some file-system caused
> a file cache page to be set to evictable or reclaimable without
> actually removing
> that page from the unevictable list ?
Currently, unevictable file pages come from ramfs, shmem, and mlock.
ramfs never makes them evictable. shmem, after making an inode
evictable again, scans the that inode's address_space and rescues the
pages it finds. munlock synchroneously rescues the pages vma's range.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-26 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/1] vmscan.c: Invalid strict_strtoul check in write_scan_unevictable_node Kautuk Consul
2011-09-25 10:59 ` Kautuk Consul
2011-09-26 9:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-26 9:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-26 11:29 ` [patch] mm: remove sysctl to manually rescue unevictable pages Johannes Weiner
2011-09-26 11:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-26 12:10 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 12:10 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 12:29 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 12:29 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 14:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-26 14:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-26 14:55 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 14:55 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-26 14:18 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-09-26 14:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-26 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-26 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-27 7:27 ` [patch] mm: disable user interface " Johannes Weiner
2011-09-27 7:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-28 2:14 ` Minchan Kim
2011-09-28 2:14 ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-04 10:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-04 10:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-09-28 4:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28 4:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28 1:00 ` [patch] mm: remove sysctl " KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-09-28 1:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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