From: Dimitri Sivanich <sivanich@sgi.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Reduce vm_stat cacheline contention in __vm_enough_memory
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:25:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111014122506.GB26737@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111013142434.4d05cbdc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 02:24:34PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:02:58 -0500 (CDT)
> Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > > > If there are no updates occurring for a while (due to increased deltas
> > > > and/or vmstat updates) then the vm_stat cacheline should be able to stay
> > > > in shared mode in multiple processors and the performance should increase.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We could cacheline align vm_stat[]. But the thing is pretty small - we
> > > couild put each entry in its own cacheline.
> >
> > Which in turn would increase the cache footprint of some key kernel
> > functions (because they need multiple vm_stat entries) and cause eviction
> > of other cachelines that then reduce overall system performance again.
>
> Sure, but we gain performance by not having different CPUs treading on
> each other when they update different vmstat fields. Sometimes one
> effect will win and other times the other effect will win. Some
> engineering is needed..
I think the first step is to determine the role (if any) that false sharing may be playing in this, since that's a simpler fix (cacheline align and pad the array).
Then, if necessary, will look at contention issues within the array.
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From: Dimitri Sivanich <sivanich@sgi.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Reduce vm_stat cacheline contention in __vm_enough_memory
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:25:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111014122506.GB26737@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111013142434.4d05cbdc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 02:24:34PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:02:58 -0500 (CDT)
> Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > > > If there are no updates occurring for a while (due to increased deltas
> > > > and/or vmstat updates) then the vm_stat cacheline should be able to stay
> > > > in shared mode in multiple processors and the performance should increase.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We could cacheline align vm_stat[]. But the thing is pretty small - we
> > > couild put each entry in its own cacheline.
> >
> > Which in turn would increase the cache footprint of some key kernel
> > functions (because they need multiple vm_stat entries) and cause eviction
> > of other cachelines that then reduce overall system performance again.
>
> Sure, but we gain performance by not having different CPUs treading on
> each other when they update different vmstat fields. Sometimes one
> effect will win and other times the other effect will win. Some
> engineering is needed..
I think the first step is to determine the role (if any) that false sharing may be playing in this, since that's a simpler fix (cacheline align and pad the array).
Then, if necessary, will look at contention issues within the array.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-12 16:02 [PATCH] Reduce vm_stat cacheline contention in __vm_enough_memory Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-12 19:01 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:01 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-12 19:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-13 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-13 15:59 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-13 15:59 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-13 15:23 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-13 15:23 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-13 15:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 15:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-13 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-13 21:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 21:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-13 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-14 12:25 ` Dimitri Sivanich [this message]
2011-10-14 12:25 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 13:50 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 13:50 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 13:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 13:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 14:19 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 14:19 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 14:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 14:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 15:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 15:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-14 16:16 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-14 16:16 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-18 13:48 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-18 13:48 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-18 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-18 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-18 15:48 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-18 15:48 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-19 1:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-19 1:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-19 14:54 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-19 14:54 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-19 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-19 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-24 14:59 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2011-10-24 14:59 ` Dimitri Sivanich
[not found] ` <CADE8fzrdMOBF1RyyEpMVi8aKcgOVKRQSKi0=c1Qvh3p6hHcXRA@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-13 0:07 ` Tim Chen
2011-10-13 0:07 ` Tim Chen
2011-10-13 14:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-13 14:15 ` Christoph Lameter
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