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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kdump: Fix crash_kexec - smp_send_stop race in panic
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:39:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111031033948.a0edb7f3.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1320055036.2796.8.camel@br98xy6r>

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:57:16 +0100 Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> > Should this be done earlier in the function?  As it stands we'll have
> > multiple CPUs scribbling on buf[] at the same time and all trying to
> > print the same thing at the same time, dumping their stacks, etc. 
> > Perhaps it would be better to single-thread all that stuff
> 
> My fist patch took the spinlock at the beginning of panic(). But then
> Eric asked, if it wouldn't be better to get both panic printk's and I
> agreed.

Hm, why?  It will make a big mess.

> > Also...  this patch affects all CPU architectures, all configs, etc. 
> > So we're expecting that every architecture's smp_send_stop() is able to
> > stop a CPU which is spinning in spin_lock(), possibly with local
> > interrupts disabled.  Will this work?
> 
> At least on s390 it will work. If there are architectures that can't
> stop disabled CPUs then this problem is already there without this
> patch.
> 
> Example:
> 
> 1. 1st CPU gets lock X and panics
> 2. 2nd CPU is disabled and gets lock X

(irq-disabled)

> 3. 1st CPU calls smp_send_stop()
>    -> 2nd CPU loops disabled and can't be stopped

Well OK.  Maybe some architectures do have this problem - who would
notice?  If that is the case, we just made the failure cases much more
common.  Could you check, please?


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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kdump: Fix crash_kexec - smp_send_stop race in panic
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:39:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111031033948.a0edb7f3.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1320055036.2796.8.camel@br98xy6r>

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:57:16 +0100 Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> > Should this be done earlier in the function?  As it stands we'll have
> > multiple CPUs scribbling on buf[] at the same time and all trying to
> > print the same thing at the same time, dumping their stacks, etc. 
> > Perhaps it would be better to single-thread all that stuff
> 
> My fist patch took the spinlock at the beginning of panic(). But then
> Eric asked, if it wouldn't be better to get both panic printk's and I
> agreed.

Hm, why?  It will make a big mess.

> > Also...  this patch affects all CPU architectures, all configs, etc. 
> > So we're expecting that every architecture's smp_send_stop() is able to
> > stop a CPU which is spinning in spin_lock(), possibly with local
> > interrupts disabled.  Will this work?
> 
> At least on s390 it will work. If there are architectures that can't
> stop disabled CPUs then this problem is already there without this
> patch.
> 
> Example:
> 
> 1. 1st CPU gets lock X and panics
> 2. 2nd CPU is disabled and gets lock X

(irq-disabled)

> 3. 1st CPU calls smp_send_stop()
>    -> 2nd CPU loops disabled and can't be stopped

Well OK.  Maybe some architectures do have this problem - who would
notice?  If that is the case, we just made the failure cases much more
common.  Could you check, please?


  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-31 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-26 14:34 [PATCH] kdump: Fix crash_kexec - smp_send_stop race in panic Michael Holzheu
2011-10-26 14:34 ` Michael Holzheu
2011-10-27 17:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-27 17:40   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-28 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-28 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-31  9:57   ` Michael Holzheu
2011-10-31  9:57     ` Michael Holzheu
2011-10-31 10:39     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-10-31 10:39       ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-31 12:34       ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Holzheu
2011-10-31 12:34         ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-01 20:04         ` Don Zickus
2011-11-01 20:04           ` Don Zickus
2011-11-02 10:03           ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-02 10:03             ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-02 10:03             ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-02 20:57             ` Luck, Tony
2011-11-02 20:57               ` Luck, Tony
2011-11-03 10:07       ` [PATCH] " Michael Holzheu
2011-11-03 10:07         ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-10  0:04         ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-10  0:04           ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-10 14:17           ` Américo Wang
2011-11-10 14:17             ` Américo Wang
2011-11-10 14:22           ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-10 14:22             ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-10 15:11             ` Chris Metcalf
2011-11-10 15:11               ` Chris Metcalf
2011-11-11 12:28               ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-11 12:28                 ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-11 12:30                 ` James Bottomley
2011-11-11 12:30                   ` James Bottomley
2011-11-11 17:02                 ` Chris Metcalf
2011-11-11 17:02                   ` Chris Metcalf
2011-11-29  8:58                   ` [PATCH v3] " Michael Holzheu
2011-11-29  8:58                     ` Michael Holzheu
2011-11-11 17:45                 ` [PATCH] " Richard Kuo
2011-11-11 17:45                   ` Richard Kuo
2011-11-10 15:31           ` James Bottomley
2011-11-10 15:31             ` James Bottomley

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