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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Andrew Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc 2/3] fs, proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:44:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112021344.40177.pedro@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ED8CFC4.5010804@parallels.com>

On Friday 02 December 2011 13:16:52, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> On 12/02/2011 04:58 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > On Friday 02 December 2011 12:43:10, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> > 
> >>>> Yes, I like /children file. other points seems to be pointed out by other
> >>>> reviewers. 
> >>>
> >>> Any reason this is a file instead of a directory like /proc/PID/task/ ?
> >>>
> >>> $ sudo ls /proc/8167/task/
> >>> 8167  854  855  856  857  858  859
> >>> $ sudo ls /proc/8167/task/855/
> >>> attr    clear_refs  cpuset   exe     io       loginuid  mountinfo  oom_adj        pagemap      sched      smaps  statm    wchan
> >>> auxv    cmdline     cwd      fd      latency  maps      mounts     oom_score      personality  schedstat  stack  status
> >>> cgroup  comm        environ  fdinfo  limits   mem       numa_maps  oom_score_adj  root         sessionid  stat   syscall
> >>>
> >>> Much easier to follow the chain from the command line this way.
> >>
> >> What do you propose to put into these directories? Another directories named with
> >> children pid-s?
> > 
> > Yes, just like the task/ dir gives you directories named with the
> > processes's thread ids.  Opening /proc/PID/children/PID-CHILD1/ would get
> > you the same as opening /proc/PID-CHILD1/.  Just like
> > opening /proc/PID/task/PID-CHILD1/ gets you (almost) the same as opening
> > /proc/PID-CHILD1/.
> 
> You cannot make the dentry named /proc/<pid1>/children/<pid2> be a hardlink on
> the /proc/<pid2>. Thus you have to make arbitrary amount of inodes to point to
> a single task. This brings unnecessary complexity and memory usage (by dentries
> and proc inodes).

How is this different from the _already existing_ /proc/<pid1>/task/ directory?
I can imagine that 98% of the code would be shared even?  It's "just" a matter of
listing thread group children (child/), instead of clone children (task/),
isn't it?

They are not symbolic links under task/.  /proc/<pid1>/task/<pid2>/ does not
have a task/ subdir, only /proc/<pid1>/ does, I guess to avoid the memory usage
issue you raise.

> I'd accept the symbolic links, but how would they look like? Like this:
>    # ls -l /proc/123/children
>             234 -> ../../234
> ?

That'd work for me...  but really, why not reuse tasks/'s code and
behave the same?

-- 
Pedro Alves

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-02 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-29 19:12 [rfc 0/3] A small bundle in a sake of checkpoint/restore Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 1/3] fs, proc: Add start_data, end_data, start_brk members to /proc/$pid/stat Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:06   ` Kees Cook
2011-12-02  0:24     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-12-02  7:28       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02 19:23         ` Kees Cook
2011-12-02 19:28           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:32   ` Serge Hallyn
2011-11-30  5:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 2/3] fs, proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30  5:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-30  6:05     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01  9:54       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01 15:43         ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-01 15:53           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01 16:07             ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-01 21:29         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-01 21:38           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02  0:40         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-02 12:41           ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 12:43             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 12:45               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02 13:10                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 13:40                   ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 12:58               ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 13:16                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 13:44                   ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2011-12-02 13:52                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 14:00                       ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 14:17                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 14:25                           ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 14:37                             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 14:45                               ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 3/3] prctl: Add PR_SET_MM codes to tune up mm_struct entires Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:19   ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:29     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:37       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:40         ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:47           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 17:37           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 18:10             ` Kees Cook
2011-11-30 18:23               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 21:06                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-07 12:27                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-07 22:43                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-08  7:07                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-08  7:15                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-08  7:30                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:37       ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:49       ` Serge Hallyn
2011-11-29 20:55         ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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