From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: mc@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
david@fromorbit.com,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Maciej Rutecki <maciej.rutecki@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFS: br_write_lock locks on possible CPUs other than online CPUs
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:59:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111220175919.GE23916@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EF09D34.1060607@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:05:32PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> Sorry but I didn't quite get your point...
> No two cpu hotplug operations can race because of the cpu_hotplug lock they
> use. Hence, if a cpu online operation begins, it has to succeed or fail
> eventually. No other cpu hotplug operation can intervene. Ditto for cpu offline
> operations.
>
> Hence a CPU_UP_PREPARE event *will* be followed by a corresponding
> CPU_UP_CANCELED or CPU_ONLINE event for the same cpu. (And we ignore the
> CPU_STARTING event that comes in between, on purpose, so as to avoid the race
> with cpu_online_mask). Similar is the story for offline operation.
>
> And if the notifier grabs the spinlock and keeps it locked between these 2
> points of a cpu hotplug operation, it ensures that our br locks will spin,
> instead of block till the cpu hotplug operation is complete. Isn't this what
> we desired all along? "A non-blocking way to sync br locks with cpu hotplug"?
>
> Or am I missing something?
The standard reason why losing the timeslice while holding a spinlock means
deadlocks?
CPU1: grabs spinlock
CPU[2..n]: tries to grab the same spinlock, spins
CPU1: does something blocking, process loses timeslice
CPU1: whatever got scheduled there happens to to try and grab the same
spinlock and you are stuck. At that point *all* CPUs are spinning on
that spinlock and your code that would eventually unlock it has no chance
to get any CPU to run on.
Having the callback grab and release a spinlock is fine (as long as you
don't do anything blocking between these spin_lock/spin_unlock). Having
it leave with spinlock held, though, means that the area where you can't
block has expanded a whole lot. As I said, brittle...
A quick grep through the actual callbacks immediately shows e.g.
del_timer_sync() done on CPU_DOWN_PREPARE. And sysfs_remove_group(),
which leads to outright mutex_lock(). And sysfs_remove_link() (ditto).
And via_cputemp_device_remove() (again, mutex_lock()). And free_irq().
And perf_event_exit_cpu() (mutex_lock()). And...
IOW, there are shitloads of deadlocks right there. If your callback's
position in the chain is earlier than any of those, you are screwed.
No, what I had in mind was different - use the callbacks to maintain a
bitmap that would contain
a) all CPUs that were online at the moment
b) ... and not too much else
Updates protected by spinlock; in all cases it gets dropped before the
callback returns. br_write_lock() grabs that spinlock and iterates over
the set; it *does* leave the spinlock grabbed - that's OK, since all
code between br_write_lock() and br_write_unlock() must be non-blocking
anyway. br_write_unlock() iterates over the same bitmap (unchanged since
br_write_lock()) and finally drops the spinlock.
AFAICS, what we want in callback is
CPU_DEAD, CPU_DEAD_FROZEN, CPU_UP_CANCELLED, CPU_UP_CANCELLED_FROZEN:
grab spinlock
remove cpu from bitmap
drop spinlock
CPU_UP_PREPARE, CPU_UP_PREPARE_FROZEN
grab spinlock
add cpu to bitmap
drop spinlock
That ought to keep bitmap close to cpu_online_mask, which is enough for
our purposes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-20 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-19 3:36 [PATCH] VFS: br_write_lock locks on possible CPUs other than online CPUs mengcong
2011-12-19 4:11 ` Al Viro
2011-12-19 5:00 ` Dave Chinner
2011-12-19 6:07 ` mengcong
2011-12-19 7:31 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-19 9:12 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-12-19 11:03 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-19 12:11 ` Al Viro
2011-12-19 20:23 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-19 20:52 ` Al Viro
2011-12-20 4:56 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 6:27 ` Al Viro
2011-12-20 7:28 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 9:37 ` mengcong
2011-12-20 10:36 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 11:08 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 12:50 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 14:06 ` Al Viro
2011-12-20 14:35 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 17:59 ` Al Viro [this message]
2011-12-20 19:12 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-20 19:58 ` Al Viro
2011-12-20 22:27 ` Dave Chinner
2011-12-20 23:31 ` Al Viro
2011-12-21 21:15 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-21 22:02 ` Al Viro
2011-12-21 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 7:02 ` Al Viro
2011-12-22 7:20 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 8:08 ` Al Viro
2011-12-22 8:17 ` Andi Kleen
2011-12-22 8:39 ` Al Viro
2011-12-22 8:22 ` Andi Kleen
2011-12-20 7:30 ` mengcong
2011-12-20 7:37 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-12-19 23:56 ` Dave Chinner
2011-12-20 4:05 ` Al Viro
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