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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Dmitry Antipov <dmitry.antipov@linaro.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@linaro.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] percpu: use ZERO_SIZE_PTR / ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:02:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120130180224.GH3355@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301156530.28693@router.home>

Hello,

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58:52AM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > No, NULL is never gonna be a valid return from any allocator including
> > percpu.  Percpu allocator doesn't and will never do so.
> 
> How do you prevent the percpu allocator from returning NULL? I thought the
> per cpu offsets can wrap around?

I thought it didn't.  I rememer thinking about this and determining
that NULL can't be allocated for dynamic addresses.  Maybe I'm
imagining things.  Anyways, if it can return NULL for valid
allocation, it is a bug and should be fixed.

> > I'm saying we don't have this for ZERO_SIZE_PTR in any meaningful way
> > at this point.  If somebody wants to implement it properly, please
> > feel free to, but simply applying ZERO_SIZE_PTR without other changes
> > doesn't make any sense.
> 
> We have no clean notion of how a percpu pointer needs to be handled. Both
> ways of handling things have drawbacks.

We don't have returned addr >= PAGE_SIZE guarantee yet but I'm fairly
sure that's the only acceptable direction if we want any improvement
in this area.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Dmitry Antipov <dmitry.antipov@linaro.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@linaro.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] percpu: use ZERO_SIZE_PTR / ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:02:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120130180224.GH3355@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301156530.28693@router.home>

Hello,

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58:52AM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > No, NULL is never gonna be a valid return from any allocator including
> > percpu.  Percpu allocator doesn't and will never do so.
> 
> How do you prevent the percpu allocator from returning NULL? I thought the
> per cpu offsets can wrap around?

I thought it didn't.  I rememer thinking about this and determining
that NULL can't be allocated for dynamic addresses.  Maybe I'm
imagining things.  Anyways, if it can return NULL for valid
allocation, it is a bug and should be fixed.

> > I'm saying we don't have this for ZERO_SIZE_PTR in any meaningful way
> > at this point.  If somebody wants to implement it properly, please
> > feel free to, but simply applying ZERO_SIZE_PTR without other changes
> > doesn't make any sense.
> 
> We have no clean notion of how a percpu pointer needs to be handled. Both
> ways of handling things have drawbacks.

We don't have returned addr >= PAGE_SIZE guarantee yet but I'm fairly
sure that's the only acceptable direction if we want any improvement
in this area.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-30 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30  8:37 [PATCH 1/3] percpu: use ZERO_SIZE_PTR / ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR Dmitry Antipov
2012-01-30  8:37 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-01-30 16:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 16:15   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:15 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:15   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:19   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:19     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:33         ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:35         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:35           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:42     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:42       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:52       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:52         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:54         ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:54           ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 17:58           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 17:58             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 18:02             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-01-30 18:02               ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 18:12               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 18:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 18:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 18:16                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-31  4:48                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-31  4:48                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-30 18:13               ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 18:13                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-30 18:15                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-30 18:15                   ` Christoph Lameter

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