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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@purestorage.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:23:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120131122339.GG32010@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120131121820.58a1db97@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk>


* Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:09:22 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > * Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > >   u64 val;
> > > >   val = readl(addr);
> > > >   val |= readl(addr+4) << 32;
> > > > 
> > > > is well-defined and must read the low word first - both at the C level
> > > > *and* at the CPU level. Anything else would be a bug in the
> > > > architecture "readl()" implementation or the hardware.
> > > 
> > > That doesn't make the access atomic to hardware however as a true 64bit
> > > readq/writeq would be ?
> > > 
> > > It seems to me the two are not quite the same semantically
> > 
> > Correct, and that's what the:
> > 
> > 	#include <asm/io-inatomic.h>
> > 
> > line in the driver would express.
> 
> Why would "inatomic" indicate that - I'm confused. It would 
> imply to me they were extra specially atomic ?

Yeah, s/inatomic/non-atomic.

inatomic would be doubly confusing for the reason that it's 
already used as an 'in atomic section' sense in the kernel.

> (atomos if from the Greek so in- as a prefix isn't the same 
> in- as in many other words, welcome to English hell - who 
> needs perl)
> 
> non-atomic.h might be better, or 'un-atomic' or 'multi-read' 
> or something ?

non-atomic sounds good to me too.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-31 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-20  1:01 [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq Matthew Wilcox
2012-01-20  1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 17:43   ` Wilcox, Matthew R
2012-01-21  8:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-21 15:54     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-21 16:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-23 16:05         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-23 16:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-23 23:04             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-29  8:02             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31  3:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-31  3:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-04 15:25                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31 11:58                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-31 12:18                     ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:23                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-02-01 23:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02  1:05                           ` James Bottomley
2012-02-02  1:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02 15:05                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-04 15:39                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-05  6:53                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-02-05  7:01                                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:34                             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-07  2:48                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:24                 ` Hitoshi Mitake

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