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From: Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor-KvP5wT2u2U0@public.gmane.org>
To: Adam Berkan <aberkan-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Piergiorgio Sartor
	<piergiorgio.sartor-KvP5wT2u2U0@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Formatting of backing device
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:54:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120201205456.GA7669@lazy.lzy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHYUNGYcs3CeRA8Pk-R_3hA6mFHshKzysxRaCcsfm3WLT__B0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Adam,

thanks for the answer, see below.

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:04:59AM -0800, Adam Berkan wrote:
> You can attach bcache to a drive with an existing file system, and it will
> continue as normal.  If you connect to a drive without a file system, then
> it will continue to not have a file system, but you can format it while
> attached.

Maybe I misused the term "format".

I did not mean filesystem format, but bcache format.

What I understood, maybe I'm wrong, is that the backing
device, before being used, must be "initialized" with
the bcache tool.

From the docs:

Getting started:
You'll need make-bcache from the bcache-tools repository. Both the cache device
and backing device must be formatted before use.
  make-bcache -B /dev/sdb
  make-bcache -C -w2k -b1M -j64 /dev/sdc

I understand this as the backing device gets something
on written on it (note the term "formatted").

Am I wrong? I hope so...

Thanks again,

bye,

pg

> Attach/detach should work while the device is in use.  This isn't the most
> tested code path, especially with writeback on, but it's supposed to work.
>  Detaching while the cache is dirty requires flushing all that data so
> performance will be bad until the detach completes.
> 
> Let us know if you find any bugs.
> Adam
> 
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Piergiorgio Sartor <
> piergiorgio.sartor-KvP5wT2u2U0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > first of all I would like to congratulate for this
> > project, I think it is one of the most promising
> > feature the Linux kernel can have.
> >
> > Wrote that, I've a question about the concept of
> > formatting the backing device.
> >
> > As far as I understood, the first concept of bcache
> > was to simply "register" or "attach" a cache to a
> > backing device, that is, the backing device had not
> > to be formatted.
> >
> > Lately, still if I understood it correctly, this
> > behaviour was changed and, now, the backing device
> > needs to be formatted.
> >
> > So, the question is:
> >
> > How about an already running device? Is it still
> > possible to attach a cache under such situation?
> >
> > In general, would it be possible to attach/detach
> > a cache to any already available device (in the
> > future)? Or the caching/backing setup must be planned
> > before the HW is available, so to speak?
> >
> > It would be useful (and cool too), to have the
> > possibility to attach/detach the SSD cache, on
> > the fly (at run-time) to any device it needs it.
> >
> > I hope the question(s) are clear, if not please
> > let me know.
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance,
> >
> > bye,
> >
> > --
> >
> > piergiorgio
> > --
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-- 

piergiorgio

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-01 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-01 10:10 Formatting of backing device Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found] ` <20120201101041.GA2779-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 19:12   ` Adam Berkan
     [not found] ` <CAHYUNGYcs3CeRA8Pk-R_3hA6mFHshKzysxRaCcsfm3WLT__B0A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAHYUNGYcs3CeRA8Pk-R_3hA6mFHshKzysxRaCcsfm3WLT__B0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 20:54     ` Piergiorgio Sartor [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20120201205456.GA7669-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 21:43         ` Adam Berkan
     [not found]       ` <CAHYUNGaB4LCESDWU1tWB1ZJp_kBH_=19e07vCndxXS5T98_xBA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAHYUNGaB4LCESDWU1tWB1ZJp_kBH_=19e07vCndxXS5T98_xBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 21:44           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]             ` <20120201214443.GA8544-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 23:11               ` Adam Berkan
2012-02-02 19:01                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                   ` <20120202190122.GA2353-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 22:11                     ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                       ` <20120202221101.GA26768-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 22:24                         ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-02-16 19:42                           ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                             ` <loom.20120216T200235-190-eS7Uydv5nfjZ+VzJOa5vwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:33                               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                 ` <20120216203332.GA6597-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:50                                   ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                                     ` <CA++fp8wcxTDJ=mbsKmWi27+yRZg-tyNdWgmhWU6=UeWgC0TZuw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:52                                       ` Alex Elsayed
2012-02-16 22:35                                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                         ` <20120216223554.GA6947-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:09                                           ` Joseph Glanville
     [not found]                                             ` <CAOzFzEhO+6ECN-WjvtMK+-2g7Dwo+DPwQMVWuCZG=Y3BVRNEBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:17                                               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                                 ` <20120216231754.GA14206-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:34                                                   ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                                                     ` <CA++fp8w7_uUd35Tcwy1bwEYpR6tJ+fkWMEg+iVEyJ1H4hqKBKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:35                                                       ` Alex Elsayed
2012-02-17 19:12                                                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor

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