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From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor-KvP5wT2u2U0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Adam Berkan <aberkan-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Formatting of backing device
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:11:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120202221101.GA26768@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120202190122.GA2353-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 08:01:22PM +0100, Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 03:11:54PM -0800, Adam Berkan wrote:
> > When we make-bcache on a drive we need to replace the filesytem
> > superblock with a bcache superblock so the kernel knows to load the
> > drive through bcache, but this destroys the filesystem.  We've talked
> 
> well, I guess it will destroy the md superblock 1.1 too,
> how about LVM metadata?
> 
> I think the mismatch is with /dev/bcacheX device.
> 
> The first implementation, as far as I remember, was simply
> telling the caching device (using UUID) which was the
> backing device, i.e. it was registering the backing to
> the caching.
> Then, still if I got it right, the bcache was caching the
> backing device directly, without any need of a third
> device (/dev/bcacheX).
> 
> I understand that the actual implementation is easier and,
> maybe, simpler, since a completely new device is added,
> which will have the new caching "features", while the
> old one (backing device) is just a further layer.
> This is similar to LVM over md over /dev/sdX.

The reason for getting rid of transparent caching didn't have anything
to do with ease of implementation: the real reason is that safely doing
persistent caching (and writeback!) is impossible with transparent
caching.

Adding back a mode that caches a device without a bcache superblock but
without the cache being persistent isn't out of the question, but it
wouldn't be terribly useful to us so it's not at all a priority for me.
If someone else wrote the code I'd take patches, though.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-02 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-01 10:10 Formatting of backing device Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found] ` <20120201101041.GA2779-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 19:12   ` Adam Berkan
     [not found] ` <CAHYUNGYcs3CeRA8Pk-R_3hA6mFHshKzysxRaCcsfm3WLT__B0A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAHYUNGYcs3CeRA8Pk-R_3hA6mFHshKzysxRaCcsfm3WLT__B0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 20:54     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]       ` <20120201205456.GA7669-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 21:43         ` Adam Berkan
     [not found]       ` <CAHYUNGaB4LCESDWU1tWB1ZJp_kBH_=19e07vCndxXS5T98_xBA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAHYUNGaB4LCESDWU1tWB1ZJp_kBH_=19e07vCndxXS5T98_xBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 21:44           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]             ` <20120201214443.GA8544-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 23:11               ` Adam Berkan
2012-02-02 19:01                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                   ` <20120202190122.GA2353-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 22:11                     ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <20120202221101.GA26768-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 22:24                         ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-02-16 19:42                           ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                             ` <loom.20120216T200235-190-eS7Uydv5nfjZ+VzJOa5vwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:33                               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                 ` <20120216203332.GA6597-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:50                                   ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                                     ` <CA++fp8wcxTDJ=mbsKmWi27+yRZg-tyNdWgmhWU6=UeWgC0TZuw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 20:52                                       ` Alex Elsayed
2012-02-16 22:35                                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                         ` <20120216223554.GA6947-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:09                                           ` Joseph Glanville
     [not found]                                             ` <CAOzFzEhO+6ECN-WjvtMK+-2g7Dwo+DPwQMVWuCZG=Y3BVRNEBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:17                                               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
     [not found]                                                 ` <20120216231754.GA14206-W+Wf6LxwHt0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:34                                                   ` Alex Elsayed
     [not found]                                                     ` <CA++fp8w7_uUd35Tcwy1bwEYpR6tJ+fkWMEg+iVEyJ1H4hqKBKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 23:35                                                       ` Alex Elsayed
2012-02-17 19:12                                                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor

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