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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] backing-dev: use synchronize_rcu_expedited instead of synchronize_rcu
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:29:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120203002902.GQ2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328219944.2446.277.camel@twins>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 10:59:04PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 15:43 -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > Do you have some measurable use case where the user is removing block 
> > devices so heavily that this causes a problem? 
> 
> Even one can be a problem, we're having people spend lots of time and
> effort to reduce machine wide jitter and interference. Adding it with
> such disregard isn't cool.
> 
> There's no reason a management cpu adding or removing block devices
> should perturb the high-freq trading or industrial laser control running
> on the other side of the machine.

Very true for real-time applications!

For the heavy trading apps, given Frederic's upcoming user-mode-idle work,
I can keep this stuff from perturbing the apps.  Still, batching would
be preferable.

							Thanx, Paul

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, "Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] backing-dev: use synchronize_rcu_expedited instead of synchronize_rcu
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:29:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120203002902.GQ2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328219944.2446.277.camel@twins>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 10:59:04PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 15:43 -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > Do you have some measurable use case where the user is removing block 
> > devices so heavily that this causes a problem? 
> 
> Even one can be a problem, we're having people spend lots of time and
> effort to reduce machine wide jitter and interference. Adding it with
> such disregard isn't cool.
> 
> There's no reason a management cpu adding or removing block devices
> should perturb the high-freq trading or industrial laser control running
> on the other side of the machine.

Very true for real-time applications!

For the heavy trading apps, given Frederic's upcoming user-mode-idle work,
I can keep this stuff from perturbing the apps.  Still, batching would
be preferable.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-03  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-21  0:29 [PATCH] backing-dev: use synchronize_rcu_expedited instead of synchronize_rcu Mikulas Patocka
2011-07-21  7:27 ` Jens Axboe
2012-01-31 20:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-31 21:04   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 20:43   ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-02-02 21:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-03  0:29       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-02-03  0:29         ` Paul E. McKenney

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