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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: netdev_alloc_skb() use build_skb()
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:17:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120604141731.GA30226@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1338818501.2760.1821.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 04:01:41PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:41 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > This is generally what virtio does, take a look:
> > page_to_skb fills the first fragment and receive_mergeable fills the
> > rest (other modes are for legacy hardware).
> > 
> > The way hypervisor now works is this (we call it mergeable buffers):
> > 
> > - pages are passed to hardware
> > - hypervisor puts virtio specific stuff in first 12 bytes
> >   on first page
> > - following this, the rest of the first page and all following
> >   pages have data
> > 
> > The driver gets the 1st page, allocates the skb, copies out the 12 byte
> > header and copies the first 128 bytes of data into skb.
> > The rest if any is populated by the pages.
> > 
> > So I guess I'm asking for advice, would it make sense to switch to build_skb
> > and how best to handle the data copying above? Maybe it would help
> > if we changed the hypervisor to write the 12 bytes separately?
> >   
> 
> Thanks for these details.
> 
> Not sure 12 bytes of headroom would be enough (instead of the
> NET_SKB_PAD reserved in netdev_alloc_skb_ip_align(), but what could be
> done indeed is to use the first page as the skb->head, so using
> build_skb() indeed, removing one fragment, one (small) copy and one
> {put|get}_page() pair.
> 

bnx2 and tg3 both do skb_reserve of at least NET_SKB_PAD
after build_skb. You are saying it's not a must?

Hmm so maybe we should teach the hypervisor to write data
out at an offset. Interesting.

Another question is about very small packets truesize.
build_skb sets truesize to frag_size but isn't
this too small? We keep the whole page around, no?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-04 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-17 12:18 Stable regression with 'tcp: allow splice() to build full TSO packets' Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 15:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 15:43   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 15:56     ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 16:33       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 16:40         ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 16:47           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 16:49           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 17:22             ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 17:34             ` [PATCH net-next] net: netdev_alloc_skb() use build_skb() Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 17:45               ` Willy Tarreau
2012-06-04 12:39                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 12:44                   ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 19:53               ` David Miller
2012-05-18  4:41                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 12:37               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 13:06                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 13:41                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 14:01                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 14:09                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 14:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-06-04 15:01                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 17:20                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 17:44                             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 18:16                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:24                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:48                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:56                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 21:20                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-05  2:50                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 18:16                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:29                             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:43                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 19:52                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 21:54                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-05  2:46                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-04 19:56                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-04 20:05                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 18:38       ` Stable regression with 'tcp: allow splice() to build full TSO packets' Ben Hutchings
2012-05-17 19:55   ` David Miller
2012-05-17 20:04     ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 20:07       ` David Miller
2012-05-17 20:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:14   ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 21:40     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:50       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 21:57         ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:01         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:10           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:16           ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:22             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:24               ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:25                 ` David Miller
2012-05-17 22:30                   ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:35                     ` David Miller
2012-05-17 22:49                       ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:27               ` Joe Perches
2012-05-17 21:54       ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 21:47     ` Willy Tarreau
2012-05-17 22:14     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-17 22:29       ` Willy Tarreau

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