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From: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <liwp.linux@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gavin Shan <shangw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <liswp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] writeback: avoid race when update bandwidth
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:21:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120613042115.GA25842@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120613035647.GU22848@dastard>

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 01:56:47PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 07:21:29PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 06:26:43PM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > > From: Wanpeng Li <liwp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > That email address is no longer in use?
> > 
> > > Since bdi->wb.list_lock is used to protect the b_* lists,
> > > so the flushers who call wb_writeback to writeback pages will
> > > stuck when bandwidth update policy holds this lock. In order
> > > to avoid this race we can introduce a new bandwidth_lock who
> > > is responsible for protecting bandwidth update policy.
> 
> This is not a race condition - it is a lock contention condition.

Nod.

> > This looks good to me. wb.list_lock could be contended and it's better
> > for bdi_update_bandwidth() to use a standalone and hardly contended
> > lock.
> 
> I'm not sure it will be "hardly contended". That's a global lock, so
> now we'll end up with updates on different bdis contending and it's
> not uncommon to see a couple of thousand processes on large machines
> beating on balance_dirty_pages().  Putting a global scope lock
> around such a function doesn't seem like a good solution to me.

It's more about the number of bdi's than the number of processes that matters.
Because here is a per-bdi 200ms ratelimit:

bdi_update_bandwidth():

       if (time_is_after_eq_jiffies(bdi->bw_time_stamp + BANDWIDTH_INTERVAL))
                return;         
       // lock it

So a global should be enough when there are only dozens of disks.

However, the global bandwidth_lock will probably become a problem when
there comes hundreds of disks. If there are (or will be) such setups,
I'm fine to revert to the old per-bdi locking.

> Oh, and if you want to remove the dirty_lock from
> global_update_limit(), then replacing the lock with a cmpxchg loop
> will do it just fine....

Yes. But to be frank, I don't care about that dirty_lock at all,
because it has its own 200ms rate limiting :-)

Thanks,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-13  4:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-12 10:26 [PATCH] writeback: avoid race when update bandwidth Wanpeng Li
2012-06-12 11:21 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-06-12 11:29   ` Wanpeng Li
2012-06-12 11:33     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-06-13  3:56   ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-13  4:21     ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
2012-06-14  1:36       ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-14 13:48         ` Fengguang Wu

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