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From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: Knut Wohlrab <knut.wohlrab@de.bosch.com>
Cc: Eric Nelson <eric.nelson@boundarydevices.com>,
	Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@linaro.org>,
	"Behme Dirk (CM-AI/PJ-CF32)" <Dirk.Behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Devicetree: Initialization order of mmc block devices?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:07:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120719100732.0197abf9@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5006D361.2070705@de.bosch.com>

Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:16:49 +0200,
Knut Wohlrab <knut.wohlrab@de.bosch.com> a écrit :

> No, because we have to know which will be the name of the root device 
> _before_ we start the kernel. In our embedded device we start the kernel 
> with a bootloader (U-Boot) and pass the root device with the kernel 
> command line parameter "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1". That is not possible if we 
> do not know what will be the name of the root device (mmcblk0 or 
> mmcblk1) when kernel try to mount it.

You can always work around this by having a minimal initramfs inside
your kernel, which contains a basic userspace environment that will
just locate the right location of the real root filesystem, mount it,
and switch to it. But I agree that it's a bit painful to have such a
complexity just to identify which device contains the root filesystem.

I also believe the root=UUID=... thing does not work when root= is
parsed by the kernel, unless you have a GPT partition table or
something like that. With the old-style partition table, the UUIDs are
inside the filesystems, and the kernel does not know about them. At
least that was my understanding of the matter about a year ago when I
looked into this.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

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From: thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com (Thomas Petazzoni)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Devicetree: Initialization order of mmc block devices?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:07:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120719100732.0197abf9@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5006D361.2070705@de.bosch.com>

Le Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:16:49 +0200,
Knut Wohlrab <knut.wohlrab@de.bosch.com> a ?crit :

> No, because we have to know which will be the name of the root device 
> _before_ we start the kernel. In our embedded device we start the kernel 
> with a bootloader (U-Boot) and pass the root device with the kernel 
> command line parameter "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1". That is not possible if we 
> do not know what will be the name of the root device (mmcblk0 or 
> mmcblk1) when kernel try to mount it.

You can always work around this by having a minimal initramfs inside
your kernel, which contains a basic userspace environment that will
just locate the right location of the real root filesystem, mount it,
and switch to it. But I agree that it's a bit painful to have such a
complexity just to identify which device contains the root filesystem.

I also believe the root=UUID=... thing does not work when root= is
parsed by the kernel, unless you have a GPT partition table or
something like that. With the old-style partition table, the UUIDs are
inside the filesystems, and the kernel does not know about them. At
least that was my understanding of the matter about a year ago when I
looked into this.

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-19  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-18  6:26 Devicetree: Initialization order of mmc block devices? Dirk Behme
2012-07-18  6:26 ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-18  7:23 ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-18  7:23   ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-18  9:49   ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-18  9:49     ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-18 13:47     ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-18 13:47       ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-18 14:11       ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-18 14:11         ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-18 14:54         ` Eric Nelson
2012-07-18 14:54           ` Eric Nelson
2012-07-18 15:16           ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-18 15:16             ` Knut Wohlrab
2012-07-19  8:07             ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2012-07-19  8:07               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-07-19 14:08             ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2012-07-19 14:08               ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2012-07-19 20:45         ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-19 20:45           ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-20 11:30           ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-20 11:30             ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-20 11:56             ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-20 11:56               ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-26  9:16               ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-26  9:16                 ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-26  9:39                 ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-26  9:39                   ` Jassi Brar
2012-07-19 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-19 13:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-26  8:06   ` Dirk Behme
2012-07-26  8:06     ` Dirk Behme

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