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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH] proc: do not allow negative offsets on /proc/<pid>/environ
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:49:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120723154927.GA17439@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120723010447.GA23410@dztty>

Hi Djalal,

On 07/23, Djalal Harouni wrote:
>
> Hi Oleg,
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:00:49PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Probablt the patch makes sense, but I can't understand the changelog...
> >
> > > Allowing negative offsets on /proc/<pid>/environ can turn it to act like
> > > /proc/<pid>/mem. A negative offset will pass the
> > > fs/read_write.c:lseek_execute() and the environ_read() checks and will
> > > point to another VMA.
> >
> > which VMA?
> It depends on the offset. Please see below.
>
> > environ_read() can only read the memory from [env_start, env_end], and
> > it should check *ppos anyway to ensure it doesn't read something else.
> Yes I agree, but currently that's not the case, there are no checks on *ppos.
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There is, unless I missed something, just it is buggy, no?

> So if you pass a negative offset you will be able to read from an arbitrary
> address.
>
> [...snip...]
>
>   inside environ_read() there is only a one check:
>
>   int this_len = mm->env_end - (mm->env_start + src);
>
>   if (this_len <= 0)
>     break;
>
>
>   Here 'src' is 'src = *ppos' the negative offset converted to unsigned long
>   and (mm->env_start + src) can overflow and point to another VMA.
>
>   int this_len = mm->env_end - (mm->env_start + src)
>
>   'this_len' will be positive and we pass that check.

OK, thanks, but doesn't this mean that this check should be fixed
to avoid the overflow, no matter what *ppos is?

With or without FMODE_UNSIGNED_OFFSET change. And perhaps it is
possible to trigger the overflow even with the positive *ppos,
because:

> I also don't like the truncation of the result to 'int this_len'

Yes.

> BTW should I resend the patch with a better changelog entry ?

Up to you, but I think this makes sense ;)

> I'll also add another patch to check the offsets inside environ_read().

Yes, agreed, but please see above.

Please correct me, but afaics this patch should come 1st and fix the bug.
FMODE_UNSIGNED_OFFSET change can be considered as a cleanup after that.

What do you think?

Oleg.

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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: do not allow negative offsets on /proc/<pid>/environ
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:49:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120723154927.GA17439@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120723010447.GA23410@dztty>

Hi Djalal,

On 07/23, Djalal Harouni wrote:
>
> Hi Oleg,
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:00:49PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Probablt the patch makes sense, but I can't understand the changelog...
> >
> > > Allowing negative offsets on /proc/<pid>/environ can turn it to act like
> > > /proc/<pid>/mem. A negative offset will pass the
> > > fs/read_write.c:lseek_execute() and the environ_read() checks and will
> > > point to another VMA.
> >
> > which VMA?
> It depends on the offset. Please see below.
>
> > environ_read() can only read the memory from [env_start, env_end], and
> > it should check *ppos anyway to ensure it doesn't read something else.
> Yes I agree, but currently that's not the case, there are no checks on *ppos.
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There is, unless I missed something, just it is buggy, no?

> So if you pass a negative offset you will be able to read from an arbitrary
> address.
>
> [...snip...]
>
>   inside environ_read() there is only a one check:
>
>   int this_len = mm->env_end - (mm->env_start + src);
>
>   if (this_len <= 0)
>     break;
>
>
>   Here 'src' is 'src = *ppos' the negative offset converted to unsigned long
>   and (mm->env_start + src) can overflow and point to another VMA.
>
>   int this_len = mm->env_end - (mm->env_start + src)
>
>   'this_len' will be positive and we pass that check.

OK, thanks, but doesn't this mean that this check should be fixed
to avoid the overflow, no matter what *ppos is?

With or without FMODE_UNSIGNED_OFFSET change. And perhaps it is
possible to trigger the overflow even with the positive *ppos,
because:

> I also don't like the truncation of the result to 'int this_len'

Yes.

> BTW should I resend the patch with a better changelog entry ?

Up to you, but I think this makes sense ;)

> I'll also add another patch to check the offsets inside environ_read().

Yes, agreed, but please see above.

Please correct me, but afaics this patch should come 1st and fix the bug.
FMODE_UNSIGNED_OFFSET change can be considered as a cleanup after that.

What do you think?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-23 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-22 16:35 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH] proc: do not allow negative offsets on /proc/<pid>/environ Djalal Harouni
2012-07-22 16:35 ` Djalal Harouni
2012-07-22 20:00 ` [kernel-hardening] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-07-22 20:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-07-23  1:04   ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2012-07-23  1:04     ` Djalal Harouni
2012-07-23 15:49     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-07-23 15:49       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-07-23 16:44       ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2012-07-23 16:44         ` Djalal Harouni

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