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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86 idle APM: delete apm_cpu_idle()
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:11:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120728111148.39ff7230@ultron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8c928c1d43f5c4d1342bd05ca29c8ea788726b8.1343428708.git.len.brown@intel.com>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:42:53 -0400
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> 
> The APM idle feature to call into the BIOS
> is known to break some machines, and it has dubious benefit
> on the (decades old) machines it doesn't break.

You mean "doesn't fit my current plan" I think. I see almost no bugzilla
APM reports. It's been solid for years.

It makes a big difference on older systems as it drops the clock. If we
are going to drop this we should probaly also drop APM support entirely
and 386/486 support.

If not IMHO it should stay. Various embedded platforms are still using
ancient hardware setups.

This is a small stable piece of code that has required no maintainance in
years

Furthermore we have a feature removal process. Mark it down to be removed
in July 2013 if there are no objections, and then wait as per proper
process.

NAK

Alan

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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86 idle APM: delete apm_cpu_idle()
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:11:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120728111148.39ff7230@ultron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8c928c1d43f5c4d1342bd05ca29c8ea788726b8.1343428708.git.len.brown@intel.com>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:42:53 -0400
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> 
> The APM idle feature to call into the BIOS
> is known to break some machines, and it has dubious benefit
> on the (decades old) machines it doesn't break.

You mean "doesn't fit my current plan" I think. I see almost no bugzilla
APM reports. It's been solid for years.

It makes a big difference on older systems as it drops the clock. If we
are going to drop this we should probaly also drop APM support entirely
and 386/486 support.

If not IMHO it should stay. Various embedded platforms are still using
ancient hardware setups.

This is a small stable piece of code that has required no maintainance in
years

Furthermore we have a feature removal process. Mark it down to be removed
in July 2013 if there are no objections, and then wait as per proper
process.

NAK

Alan



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-28 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-27 22:42 [0/4] pm_idle, default_idle cleanup Len Brown
2012-07-27 22:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] Revert "x86 idle APM: deprecate CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE" to prepare for actual removal Len Brown
2012-07-27 22:42   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86 idle APM: delete apm_cpu_idle() Len Brown
2012-07-28 10:11     ` Alan Cox [this message]
2012-07-28 10:11       ` Alan Cox
2012-07-29  2:21       ` Len Brown
2012-07-29  2:21         ` Len Brown
2012-07-27 22:42   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86, idle: make default_idle() static Len Brown
2012-07-27 22:42   ` [PATCH 4/4] PM: cleanup: stop mandating that platforms export (pm_idle)() Len Brown
2012-08-07 23:26     ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2012-08-07 23:26       ` Kevin Hilman

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