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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Cc: roger.xr.nilsson@stericsson.com,
	'Linus Walleij' <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Ola Lilja <olalilja@yahoo.se>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/22] ASoC: Ux500: Initialise PCM from MSP probe rather than as a device
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:59:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120823125903.GA7995@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120823121936.GA1047@gmail.com>


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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 01:20:03PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > I say I don't understand the motivation for this change.  All the modern
> > DT bindings are perfectly happy handling this without an explicit shim
> > in the device tree to bodge things for Linux, adding them in seems like
> > it'd be a retrograde step.  What benefit do you believe this brings?

> How do the all the other DT:ed audio drivers handle the PCM then? More
> importantly, how would you like to see it handled? Ola has NACKed this
> patch and explained why:

They instantiate the PCM driver dynamically from the DAI when it's
probed which is pretty much what you're patch is doing.

> "I'm sorry but this patch is breaking the design of ASoC. The ASoC-
> platform is the DMA-block (in combination with the MSP-block), and
> there should be a platform-driver for the DMA/PCM. The platform-driver 
> then has a DAI which is the MSP. The ASoC DAI-link-struct should have
> one driver for each of these, so the dummy-driver for PCM should be
> there."

> So I don't really know where to go with it. Any ideas?

I think Ola is suggesting probing the DMA driver from the machine which
will also work though I'm not 100% sure if I'm parsing the above
correctly.  The issue in DT terms is that if the DMA controller is
shared with a bunch of other IPs then it should have one node shared
between them all and not a bunch of shim nodes inserted in the middle
which only exists due to the way Linux instantiates stuff.

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From: broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 07/22] ASoC: Ux500: Initialise PCM from MSP probe rather than as a device
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:59:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120823125903.GA7995@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120823121936.GA1047@gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 01:20:03PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > I say I don't understand the motivation for this change.  All the modern
> > DT bindings are perfectly happy handling this without an explicit shim
> > in the device tree to bodge things for Linux, adding them in seems like
> > it'd be a retrograde step.  What benefit do you believe this brings?

> How do the all the other DT:ed audio drivers handle the PCM then? More
> importantly, how would you like to see it handled? Ola has NACKed this
> patch and explained why:

They instantiate the PCM driver dynamically from the DAI when it's
probed which is pretty much what you're patch is doing.

> "I'm sorry but this patch is breaking the design of ASoC. The ASoC-
> platform is the DMA-block (in combination with the MSP-block), and
> there should be a platform-driver for the DMA/PCM. The platform-driver 
> then has a DAI which is the MSP. The ASoC DAI-link-struct should have
> one driver for each of these, so the dummy-driver for PCM should be
> there."

> So I don't really know where to go with it. Any ideas?

I think Ola is suggesting probing the DMA driver from the machine which
will also work though I'm not 100% sure if I'm parsing the above
correctly.  The issue in DT terms is that if the DMA controller is
shared with a bunch of other IPs then it should have one node shared
between them all and not a bunch of shim nodes inserted in the middle
which only exists due to the way Linux instantiates stuff.
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Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-09 15:47 [PATCH 00/22] mop500 related Audio reorganisation and fixups Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 01/22] ARM: ux500: Fix merge error, no matching driver name for 'snd_soc_u8500' Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:38   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:38     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 02/22] ARM: ux500: Ensure probing of Audio devices when Device Tree is enabled Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:40   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:40     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 03/22] ASoC: ab8500: Inform SoC Core that we have our own I/O arrangements Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:40   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:40     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:40     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 12:17   ` Takashi Iwai
2012-08-14 12:17     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2012-08-14 12:17     ` Takashi Iwai
2012-08-15 14:01   ` Mark Brown
2012-08-15 14:01     ` Mark Brown
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 04/22] ASoC: Ux500: Move MSP pinctrl setup into the MSP driver Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:51   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:51     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:51     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-20  8:09     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20  8:09       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 11:59     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 11:59       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 11:59       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-27 23:09       ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-27 23:09         ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-27 23:09         ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-30 13:18         ` Lee Jones
2012-08-30 13:18           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-30 13:18           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 05/22] ASoC: Ux500: Enable MOP500 driver for Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:52   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:52     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:52     ` Linus Walleij
2012-09-10 16:45     ` Lee Jones
2012-09-10 16:45       ` Lee Jones
2012-09-10 16:45       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 06/22] ASoC: Ux500: Enable ux500 MSP " Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14  8:55   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14  8:55     ` Linus Walleij
2012-09-10 16:45     ` Lee Jones
2012-09-10 16:45       ` Lee Jones
2012-09-10 16:45       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 07/22] ASoC: Ux500: Initialise PCM from MSP probe rather than as a device Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:08   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:08     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:08     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]     ` <002801cd7c31$14d3d0c0$3e7b7240$@se>
     [not found]       ` <20120820085111.GJ8450@gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <006d01cd7f5a$65937840$30ba68c0$@se>
2012-08-23  9:22           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23  9:22             ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 11:39             ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 11:39               ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 12:20               ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 12:20                 ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 12:59                 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2012-08-23 12:59                   ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 13:26                   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 13:26                     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 14:37                     ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 14:37                       ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 14:59                       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 14:59                         ` Lee Jones
2012-08-23 15:00                         ` Mark Brown
2012-08-23 15:00                           ` Mark Brown
2012-09-19 12:29                   ` Lee Jones
2012-09-19 12:29                     ` Lee Jones
2012-09-19 13:33     ` [RESENDING] " Lee Jones
2012-09-19 13:33       ` Lee Jones
2012-09-19 13:33       ` Lee Jones
2012-09-20  9:03       ` Ola Lilja
2012-09-20  9:03         ` Ola Lilja
2012-09-20  9:03         ` Ola Lilja
2012-09-20 12:49         ` Mark Brown
2012-09-20 12:49           ` Mark Brown
2012-09-20 12:49           ` Mark Brown
2012-09-20 12:52         ` Lee Jones
2012-09-20 12:52           ` Lee Jones
2012-09-20 12:52           ` Lee Jones
2012-11-22 14:05           ` Lee Jones
2012-11-22 14:05             ` Lee Jones
2012-11-22 14:05             ` Lee Jones
2012-11-23  1:58             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-23  1:58               ` Mark Brown
2012-11-23  9:12               ` Lee Jones
2012-11-23  9:12                 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-23 10:09                 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-23 10:09                   ` Mark Brown
2012-11-23 10:09                   ` Mark Brown
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 08/22] ASoC: codecs: Enable AB8500 CODEC for Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:09   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:09     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:09     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 12:17   ` Takashi Iwai
2012-08-14 12:17     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2012-08-14 12:17     ` Takashi Iwai
2012-08-20 11:34     ` [PATCH 1/1] " Lee Jones
2012-08-20 11:34       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 11:34       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 14:36       ` Mark Brown
2012-08-20 14:36         ` Mark Brown
2012-08-20 14:36         ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 11:51         ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 11:51           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 11:51           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 12:39           ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 12:39             ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 12:39             ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 12:58             ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 12:58               ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 12:58               ` Lee Jones
2012-08-21 13:40               ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 13:40                 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-21 13:40                 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 09/22] Documentation: Define the MOP500 Audio Machine Driver Device Tree bindings Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 10/22] Documentation: Define the MSP " Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 11/22] ARM: ux500: Clean-up MSP platform code Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:12   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:12     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 12/22] ARM: ux500: Add AB8500 CODEC node to DB8500 Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20 14:34   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-20 14:34     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 13/22] ARM: ux500: Fork MSP platform registration for step-by-step DT enablement Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:13   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:13     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-20  8:06     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-20  8:06       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-27 23:07       ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-27 23:07         ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-28  7:48         ` Lee Jones
2012-08-28  7:48           ` Lee Jones
2012-08-30 23:56           ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-30 23:56             ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 14/22] ARM: ux500: Pass MSP DMA platform data though AUXDATA Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:14   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:14     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 15/22] ARM: ux500: Stop registering the MOP500 Audio driver from platform code Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:16   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:16     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 16/22] ARM: ux500: Stop registering the PCM " Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:16   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:16     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 17/22] ARM: ux500: Remove platform registration of MSP devices Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:18   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:18     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 18/22] ARM: ux500: Rename MSP board file to something more meaningful Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:20   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:20     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-30 12:31     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-30 12:31       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 19/22] ARM: ux500: Rename db8500.dtsi to dbx5x0.dtsi to encompass the u9500, u8540 and u9540 Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:22   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:22     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 20/22] ARM: ux500: Add nodes for the MSP into Device Tree Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:23   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:23     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 21/22] ARM: ux500: Add all encompassing sound node to the Snowball " Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:23   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:23     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 15:47 ` [PATCH 22/22] Documentation: Add the AB8500 CODEC device to the MFD AB8500 doc Lee Jones
2012-08-09 15:47   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:24   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:24     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:24     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-09 18:50 ` [PATCH 00/22] mop500 related Audio reorganisation and fixups Mark Brown
2012-08-09 18:50   ` Mark Brown
2012-08-09 19:40   ` Lee Jones
2012-08-09 19:40     ` Lee Jones
2012-08-10  8:48     ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-10  8:48       ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-10  9:37       ` Lee Jones
2012-08-10  9:37         ` Lee Jones
2012-08-14 11:34   ` Linus Walleij
2012-08-14 11:34     ` Linus Walleij

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