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From: Martin Nybo Andersen <tweek@tweek.dk>
To: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>
Cc: wbrana <wbrana@gmail.com>,
	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Drop support for x86-32
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:54:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201208241854.45656.tweek@tweek.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5037AAB0.6040102@genband.com>

On Friday 24 August 2012 18:24:16 Chris Friesen wrote:
> On 08/24/2012 10:14 AM, Martin Nybo Andersen wrote:
> > (And I'm still not sure why one would run 32-bit applications on a 64-bit
> > architecture...)
> 
> There are several architectures (powerpc comes to mind) where 32-bit
> userspace on 64-bit kernel is the norm because it offers performance
> advantages due to the smaller pointer size if the process doesn' t need
> the larger address space.  This is the rationale behind the new x32 ABI
> for x86-64 kernels.

For specific cases surely a specific ABI will be faster than another, and 
because of that I love that we are free to choose when using Linux. Personally 
I'd hate maintaining up to three versions of the same userspace code, while 
other might need it (or even do it happily) -- but that is another story.

What I'd hate even more is rendering my old working hardware useless by 
removing x86-32 support from the kernel. To reason the removal by saying 
"Microsoft plans to do it" just makes me go bonkers...

> You might also want to run legacy apps (which can't be recompiled) on
> new hardware.

These legacy apps will most likely be compiled for x86-32 and not x32 (an 
argument for not removing x86-32 support on a running x86-64 kernel).

-- 
Cheers,
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-24 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-23 10:41 Drop support for x86-32 wbrana
     [not found] ` <201208231814.21168.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-23 17:22   ` wbrana
2012-08-23 17:51     ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-23 18:07       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:40         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-24 12:59           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 13:51             ` wbrana
2012-08-24 15:48             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-24 15:55               ` wbrana
     [not found]                 ` <CANQmPXj6VsxP596xeU5SZaL=eyDJR4_ShBxCJVqthYTdNA4HSw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:11                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:14                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:17                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20                     ` Bobby Powers
2012-08-24 16:24                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20                     ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:26                       ` wbrana
     [not found]                         ` <201208241832.09577.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 16:39                           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:24                   ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 16:54                     ` Martin Nybo Andersen [this message]
2012-08-24 17:05                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 17:25                         ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 17:28                         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 18:11                         ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]                         ` <201208241952.04988.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 18:18                           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:35                             ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 18:59                               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 19:53                                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-25  8:27                                   ` wbrana
2012-08-25  8:43                                     ` Gene Heskett
2012-08-25  9:25                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 12:20                                     ` wbrana
2012-08-25 14:41                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 15:51                                         ` Shentino
2012-08-25 16:07                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25 11:35                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 11:52                                   ` wbrana
2012-08-25 16:46                                     ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:22                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:24                                         ` Shentino
2012-08-25 17:27                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:34                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-25 17:38                                               ` wbrana
2012-08-26  2:18                                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-08-26  2:30                                                   ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-27 12:21                                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 17:40                                         ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:49                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25  0:51                         ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-25  7:46                           ` wbrana
     [not found]                 ` <CANQmPXgefyCJuzFiAugp6OW2+HtjABSWuQqG33gAU_XgQ1V_2A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:19                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:36                     ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:36                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:47                         ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:45                           ` wbrana
2012-08-26 13:56                             ` Mark Lord
     [not found]                               ` <CAJ7jCm=A+OOQNq3HYsyM9bVXYQbfxkXaJg+yN_-vyA+VM9-jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-29 23:03                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-08-29 23:42                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2012-08-25  0:57                       ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-23 18:08     ` Al Viro
2012-08-23 18:17       ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:22         ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-23 18:23         ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:30           ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:33             ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:40               ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:01                 ` Al Viro
2012-08-24  9:51                   ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:50     ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-23 18:54     ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:03       ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:04         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:08           ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:35             ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24  9:50               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:27                 ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:30                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:36                     ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:38                     ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:42                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:49                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2012-08-24 10:59                         ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 11:57                         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24  9:53       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:00         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 12:04           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:14             ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-24 12:27               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 18:57         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 19:13           ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 19:58             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 20:06               ` Dave Jones
2012-08-24 20:25                 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-08-24 20:47                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:38           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:40           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 20:18           ` Space-Certified CPUs and Linux Craig Milo Rogers
2012-08-24 20:49           ` Drop support for x86-32 Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-30  1:14           ` david
2012-08-24 16:24 ` Raymond Jennings
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-08-24 18:09 Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 19:32 Raymond Jennings
2012-08-26 14:26 Free Email Service
2012-08-26 17:01 ` Shentino
2012-08-26 16:35 Free Email Service
2012-08-28  8:24 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2012-08-30  8:46 Free Email Service

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