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From: Martin Nybo Andersen <tweek@tweek.dk>
To: wbrana <wbrana@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Drop support for x86-32
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:53:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201208242153.24638.tweek@tweek.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7jCmmuxiWegxkdAsbtCbv-zXgmt--V2bVdENkupGTwj=3HSg@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 24 August 2012 20:59:33 wbrana wrote:
> On 8/24/12, Martin Nybo Andersen <tweek@tweek.dk> wrote:
> > I want to use *my* old machines (hey, I payed for them) on whatever new
> > hardware I can plug into them. I'm not an oracle and can't see into the
> > future, however USB has evolved, for instance, and will probably still do
> > --
> 
> Your 32-bit machines will be likely dead in 2015. If it didn't happen
> you will able to buy very cheap old 64-bit machine.
I don't think so. My trusty old Amiga 4000 from '93 still works, and I don't 
think it'll die within the next three years. :-) 

> >> I can't find any e-mail where Chris Friesen mentioned exact legacy apps.
> > 
> > Have a look in your inbox or one of the mailarchives. If that doesn't
> > work,
> > 
> > then stop deleting half of the mails before replying.
> 
> I don't delete e-mails. Can you copy-paste or give link?
You delete part of them. Here's a link to Friesens mail:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/24/300

Quote:
"You might also want to run legacy apps (which can't be recompiled) on new 
hardware."

I know he's not giving any names, however he's specific enough: Apps which 
can't be recompiled. Ie. software for which you haven't got the source code or 
a working compiler.

> > The source code for Firefox and Chromium is available online. Go fetch
> > and compile. If they don't compile or execute as intended, I'm sure they
> > would like seeing a patch from you fixing the problem.
> 
> Firefox and Chromium are large applications and can't be fixed by one user.
Try telling Torvalds he couldn't create Linux, or Stallman that he couldn't 
create GNU.

Seriously: Announce your work and people will help you if they feel that it is 
worthwhile.

> > NVIDIA, on the other hand, is yet another reason for using nouveau.
> 
> nouveau is useless garbage as most open source graphics drivers.
Quite the opposite. You should try it some day. The only thing I miss is 
VDPAU. But then again, I use another computer for watching movies. It has a 
Radeon card installed (using the open radeon driver -- not the flgrx). Full HD 
and sound via HDMI running flawlessly. As does the integrated Intel GPU on my 
eeepc 900 (the CPU seems to be the fastest chip on that netbook ... ;-) ...).

-- 
Cheers,
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-24 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-23 10:41 Drop support for x86-32 wbrana
     [not found] ` <201208231814.21168.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-23 17:22   ` wbrana
2012-08-23 17:51     ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-23 18:07       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:40         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-24 12:59           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 13:51             ` wbrana
2012-08-24 15:48             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-24 15:55               ` wbrana
     [not found]                 ` <CANQmPXj6VsxP596xeU5SZaL=eyDJR4_ShBxCJVqthYTdNA4HSw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:11                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:14                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:17                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20                     ` Bobby Powers
2012-08-24 16:24                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20                     ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:26                       ` wbrana
     [not found]                         ` <201208241832.09577.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 16:39                           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:24                   ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 16:54                     ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 17:05                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 17:25                         ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 17:28                         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 18:11                         ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]                         ` <201208241952.04988.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 18:18                           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:35                             ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 18:59                               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 19:53                                 ` Martin Nybo Andersen [this message]
2012-08-25  8:27                                   ` wbrana
2012-08-25  8:43                                     ` Gene Heskett
2012-08-25  9:25                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 12:20                                     ` wbrana
2012-08-25 14:41                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 15:51                                         ` Shentino
2012-08-25 16:07                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25 11:35                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 11:52                                   ` wbrana
2012-08-25 16:46                                     ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:22                                       ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:24                                         ` Shentino
2012-08-25 17:27                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:34                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-25 17:38                                               ` wbrana
2012-08-26  2:18                                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-08-26  2:30                                                   ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-27 12:21                                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 17:40                                         ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:49                                           ` wbrana
2012-08-25  0:51                         ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-25  7:46                           ` wbrana
     [not found]                 ` <CANQmPXgefyCJuzFiAugp6OW2+HtjABSWuQqG33gAU_XgQ1V_2A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:19                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:36                     ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:36                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:47                         ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:45                           ` wbrana
2012-08-26 13:56                             ` Mark Lord
     [not found]                               ` <CAJ7jCm=A+OOQNq3HYsyM9bVXYQbfxkXaJg+yN_-vyA+VM9-jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-29 23:03                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-08-29 23:42                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2012-08-25  0:57                       ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-23 18:08     ` Al Viro
2012-08-23 18:17       ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:22         ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-23 18:23         ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:30           ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:33             ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:40               ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:01                 ` Al Viro
2012-08-24  9:51                   ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:50     ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-23 18:54     ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:03       ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:04         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:08           ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:35             ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24  9:50               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:27                 ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:30                   ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:36                     ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:38                     ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:42                       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:49                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2012-08-24 10:59                         ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 11:57                         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24  9:53       ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:00         ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 12:04           ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:14             ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-24 12:27               ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 18:57         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 19:13           ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 19:58             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 20:06               ` Dave Jones
2012-08-24 20:25                 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-08-24 20:47                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:38           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:40           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 20:18           ` Space-Certified CPUs and Linux Craig Milo Rogers
2012-08-24 20:49           ` Drop support for x86-32 Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-30  1:14           ` david
2012-08-24 16:24 ` Raymond Jennings
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-08-24 18:09 Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 19:32 Raymond Jennings
2012-08-26 14:26 Free Email Service
2012-08-26 17:01 ` Shentino
2012-08-26 16:35 Free Email Service
2012-08-28  8:24 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2012-08-30  8:46 Free Email Service

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