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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 3/4] cpuid: disable pv eoi for 1.1 and older compat types
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:29:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120829142952.GA7003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873935yelv.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:09:16AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:36:30AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > In preparation for adding PV EOI support, disable PV EOI by default for
> >> > 1.1 and older machine types, to avoid CPUID changing during migration.
> >> >
> >> > PV EOI can still be enabled/disabled by specifying it explicitly.
> >> >     Enable for 1.1
> >> >     -M pc-1.1 -cpu kvm64,+kvm_pv_eoi
> >> >     Disable for 1.2
> >> >     -M pc-1.2 -cpu kvm64,-kvm_pv_eoi
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >> 
> >> As best I can tell, we're papering over an ABI breakage in KVM.
> >> 
> >> If an old QEMU attempts to do a live migration on a new kernel,
> >> migrating to an QEMU on a different box with an older kernel, it will
> >> fail because there is state that isn't being migrated.
> >> 
> >> This ought to be fixed in the kernel by making these features
> >> whitelisted by userspace.
> >> 
> > What do you mean. Userspace and only userspace decides what cpuid bits
> > will be seen by a guest. Currently userspace enables all PV cpuid bits
> > it finds.
> 
> Right, I misunderstood from the commit message.  I see now that the
> problem is that bfee7546df51c08e395dc8a7676a5c7f20186fee unconditionally
> enabled kvm_pv_eoi without taking into account migration support.

All that commit does it let user disable pv eoi.
Don't see how reverting it will help ...

> I think for 1.2 we should simply revert the above commit and then we can
> restore it for 1.3 with proper support for migration.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
> >
> > --
> > 			Gleb.

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 3/4] cpuid: disable pv eoi for 1.1 and older compat types
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:29:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120829142952.GA7003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873935yelv.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:09:16AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:36:30AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > In preparation for adding PV EOI support, disable PV EOI by default for
> >> > 1.1 and older machine types, to avoid CPUID changing during migration.
> >> >
> >> > PV EOI can still be enabled/disabled by specifying it explicitly.
> >> >     Enable for 1.1
> >> >     -M pc-1.1 -cpu kvm64,+kvm_pv_eoi
> >> >     Disable for 1.2
> >> >     -M pc-1.2 -cpu kvm64,-kvm_pv_eoi
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >> 
> >> As best I can tell, we're papering over an ABI breakage in KVM.
> >> 
> >> If an old QEMU attempts to do a live migration on a new kernel,
> >> migrating to an QEMU on a different box with an older kernel, it will
> >> fail because there is state that isn't being migrated.
> >> 
> >> This ought to be fixed in the kernel by making these features
> >> whitelisted by userspace.
> >> 
> > What do you mean. Userspace and only userspace decides what cpuid bits
> > will be seen by a guest. Currently userspace enables all PV cpuid bits
> > it finds.
> 
> Right, I misunderstood from the commit message.  I see now that the
> problem is that bfee7546df51c08e395dc8a7676a5c7f20186fee unconditionally
> enabled kvm_pv_eoi without taking into account migration support.

All that commit does it let user disable pv eoi.
Don't see how reverting it will help ...

> I think for 1.2 we should simply revert the above commit and then we can
> restore it for 1.3 with proper support for migration.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
> >
> > --
> > 			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-29 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-28 17:43 [PATCHv4 0/4] migrate PV EOI MSR Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43 ` [PATCHv4 1/4] linux-headers: update to 3.6-rc3 Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43 ` [PATCHv4 2/4] pc: refactor compat code Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 14:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 14:49     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-08-28 17:43 ` [PATCHv4 3/4] cpuid: disable pv eoi for 1.1 and older compat types Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 19:13   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 19:13     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 21:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 21:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 22:02       ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 22:02         ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 22:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 22:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 22:25           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 22:25             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 23:50             ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 23:50               ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 10:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:06                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 12:56                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 12:56                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 13:18                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 13:18                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 13:49                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 13:49                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 14:11                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 14:11                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 14:21                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 14:21                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29  9:59           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29  9:59             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29 10:03             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29 10:03               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29 10:32               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:32                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:23               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:31               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 14:43       ` Juan Quintela
2012-08-29 14:43         ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2012-08-29 13:36   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 13:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 13:40     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-29 13:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-08-29 14:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 14:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 14:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-29 14:29           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 14:41         ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 15:04           ` [QEMU 1.2 PATCH] i386: kvm: have a predefined set of default KVM feature bits Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 15:04             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 15:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 15:10               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 15:46               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29 15:46                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-29 14:03     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 3/4] cpuid: disable pv eoi for 1.1 and older compat types Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-29 14:03       ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-08-28 17:43 ` [PATCHv4 4/4] kvm: get/set PV EOI MSR Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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