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From: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: <acme@ghostprotocols.net>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/11] perf tool: precise mode requires exclude_guest
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:56:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120906195645.GD8285@erda.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5048F6BF.70106@gmail.com>

On 06.09.12 13:17:19, David Ahern wrote:
> On 9/6/12 1:02 PM, Robert Richter wrote:
> > just found your patch...

I tested the patch and it runs ok with my kernel patch that checks
syscall attributes for ibs. perf tools falls back and clears
exclude_guest/_host bits in attr. It also should work if the kernel
ignores those bits (without my patch).

Acked-by: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>

> > To summarize how I think it should work:
> >
> >   -e cycles:p ..... Enable exclude_guest bit. If the syscall fails,
> >                     fall back by disabling the guest bit and send
> >                     syscall again
> 
> I think the fallback scenarios are getting out of hand -- too many and 
> too many combinations. For this case (:p only) I proposed setting 
> exclude_guest. It should not fail if the pebs/ibs is supported. If so, 
> give the user a helpful message. e.g., https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/20/440
> 
> 
> >
> >   -e cycles:pGH ... Do not enable exclude_guest/_host. Do not fall back
> >                     on syscall errors.
> 
> In this case give the user a message that the requested combination is 
> invalid. I have a patch similar to the one above for this.

Yes, but cases where only guest or host-only mode is supported are
rare.

> 
> >
> > Same for the case the p modifier is not set.
> >
> > So we have the following:
> >
> >   G           ... set exclude_host bit, clear exclude_guest
> >   H           ... set exclude_guest bit, clear exclude_host
> >   GH          ... clear both exclude_guest/_host
> >   <no G or H> ... default (set exclude_host bit, clear exclude_guest),
> >                   but fall back on syscall errors to clear both
> >                   exclude_guest/_host
> 
> you lost me on the last one. If the user specifies no attributes on the 
> events then exclude_host/exclude_guest is controlled by the 
> perf_host/perf_guest variables - see event_attr_init().

As you said above, falling back by disabling flags becomes unhandy.
Current implementation falls back without (?) notice even if the user
explicitly demanded G or H. Falling back should only be the case if no
G/H modifiers are given. This is what I meant here.

> > The modifier parser should be correctly implemented and should work
> > with ibs. Will test this patch.
> 
> Thanks!

Sorry far being late a bit with all this.

-Robert

-- 
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating System Research Center


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-20 23:25 [PATCH 00/11] perf tool: assorted cleanups and bug fixes David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] perf tool: add machine id to modules debug message David Ahern
2012-07-25 19:16   ` [tip:perf/core] perf symbols: Add " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] perf kvm: set name for VM process in guest machine David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:12   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:17   ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Set " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] perf kvm: guest userspace samples should not be lumped with host uspace David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:13   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:18   ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Guest " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] perf kvm: fix bug resolving guest kernel syms - v2 David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:11   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:19   ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Fix bug resolving guest kernel syms tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] perf kvm: use strtol for walking guestmount directory David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:09   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] perf kvm: limit repetitive guestmount message to once per directory David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:11   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-25 19:20   ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Limit " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] perf tools: dump exclude_{guest,host}, precise_ip header info too David Ahern
2012-07-25 19:20   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Dump " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] perf tool: precise mode requires exclude_guest David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:13   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:20     ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 16:15       ` Robert Richter
2012-07-24 17:28         ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 18:03           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-26  5:16             ` David Ahern
2012-07-26  8:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-08-03 13:51                 ` Robert Richter
2012-08-15 15:22                   ` David Ahern
2012-09-05 15:43                   ` David Ahern
2012-09-05 22:07                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:44                       ` Robert Richter
2012-09-06 18:19                         ` David Ahern
2012-07-25 20:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-26  5:50           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-26  8:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-26  8:10               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-26  9:07               ` Robert Richter
2012-08-02 16:06             ` David Ahern
2012-09-06 19:02   ` Robert Richter
2012-09-06 19:17     ` David Ahern
2012-09-06 19:56       ` Robert Richter [this message]
2012-09-07 16:41         ` [PATCH] perf, ibs: Check syscall attribute flags Robert Richter
2012-09-07 16:50           ` David Ahern
2012-09-07 17:07             ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 17:11               ` David Ahern
2012-09-07 17:20                 ` David Ahern
2012-09-10 13:07                   ` Robert Richter
2012-09-10 15:37                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-09-07 17:25                 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 16:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-07 17:18             ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 19:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-10  9:30             ` [PATCH -v2] " Robert Richter
2012-09-14  6:17               ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf/x86/ibs: " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] perf top: error handling for counter creation should parallel perf-record David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:15   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:01     ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 14:39       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] perf tool: give user better message if precise is not supported David Ahern
2012-07-21 10:40   ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-22  2:28     ` David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] perf kvm top: limit guest kernel info message to once David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:17   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:02     ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 14:40       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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