From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/11] perf tool: precise mode requires exclude_guest
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:19:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5048E94A.2020303@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120906174452.GC8285@erda.amd.com>
On 9/6/12 11:44 AM, Robert Richter wrote:
> David,
>
> On 06.09.12 00:07:52, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 09:43 -0600, David Ahern wrote:
>>> We need to require exclude_guest when using precise attribute with perf
>>> else all running VMs on Intel-based servers will crash. I do not have an
>>> AMD based server to even attempt the preferred solution.
>
> do you have a perf tool patch ready that enables exclude_guest per
> default for precise events? I have ibs kernel code that returns EINVAL
> in this case. Current perf tool should then fall back by sending
> another syscall with the exclude_guest modifier disabled. This should
> work for ibs. Testing your patch wouln't be an effort for me.
The beginning of this thread:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/20/437
Takes the route of setting exclude_guest if precise is specified. This
is simpler than adding yet another failure detect with fallback.
>
> To prevent Intel-based servers from crashing, pebs should be only
> enabled if the exclude_guest modifier is enabled. I guess there is
> already kernel code to prevent this, but didn't look at the sources.
Peter's patch takes care of this, but it can't be applied until
userspace code is updated to avoid userspace breakage. And the userspace
patch can't be applied until AMD side handles the exclude_guest setting.
>
> To prevent probing the kernel with syscalls to detect pmu features, I
> suggested some time ago to introduce
>
> /sys/bus/event_source/devices/*/flags
>
> or so similar to /proc/cpuinfo:flags. Any opinions on that?
I think that is up to Peter, Ingo, Arnaldo.
David
>
> There is also the option to emulate exclude_guest for ibs in
> software. So far I didn't have the time to look at this. We could
> still add this in the future. Since we need to fix current mainline
> anyway where such a patch wouldn't go in for v3.6, I will send my
> current ibs kernel fixes I mentioned above next days. It would be
> great to test this also with your patch.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Robert
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-06 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-20 23:25 [PATCH 00/11] perf tool: assorted cleanups and bug fixes David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] perf tool: add machine id to modules debug message David Ahern
2012-07-25 19:16 ` [tip:perf/core] perf symbols: Add " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] perf kvm: set name for VM process in guest machine David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:12 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:17 ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Set " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] perf kvm: guest userspace samples should not be lumped with host uspace David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:13 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:18 ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Guest " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] perf kvm: fix bug resolving guest kernel syms - v2 David Ahern
2012-07-25 12:11 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-07-25 19:19 ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Fix bug resolving guest kernel syms tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] perf kvm: use strtol for walking guestmount directory David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:09 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] perf kvm: limit repetitive guestmount message to once per directory David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:11 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-25 19:20 ` [tip:perf/core] perf kvm: Limit " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] perf tools: dump exclude_{guest,host}, precise_ip header info too David Ahern
2012-07-25 19:20 ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Dump " tip-bot for David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] perf tool: precise mode requires exclude_guest David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:20 ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 16:15 ` Robert Richter
2012-07-24 17:28 ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 18:03 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-26 5:16 ` David Ahern
2012-07-26 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-08-03 13:51 ` Robert Richter
2012-08-15 15:22 ` David Ahern
2012-09-05 15:43 ` David Ahern
2012-09-05 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:44 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-06 18:19 ` David Ahern [this message]
2012-07-25 20:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-26 5:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-26 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-26 8:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-26 9:07 ` Robert Richter
2012-08-02 16:06 ` David Ahern
2012-09-06 19:02 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-06 19:17 ` David Ahern
2012-09-06 19:56 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 16:41 ` [PATCH] perf, ibs: Check syscall attribute flags Robert Richter
2012-09-07 16:50 ` David Ahern
2012-09-07 17:07 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 17:11 ` David Ahern
2012-09-07 17:20 ` David Ahern
2012-09-10 13:07 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-10 15:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-09-07 17:25 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-07 17:18 ` Robert Richter
2012-09-07 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-10 9:30 ` [PATCH -v2] " Robert Richter
2012-09-14 6:17 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf/x86/ibs: " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] perf top: error handling for counter creation should parallel perf-record David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:15 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:01 ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 14:39 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] perf tool: give user better message if precise is not supported David Ahern
2012-07-21 10:40 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-22 2:28 ` David Ahern
2012-07-20 23:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] perf kvm top: limit guest kernel info message to once David Ahern
2012-07-23 18:17 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-07-24 14:02 ` David Ahern
2012-07-24 14:40 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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