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From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 4/8] block: Add bio_reset()
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:25:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120907222522.GE16360@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <504A6FF5.3090603-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:45PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2012-09-07 15:55, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On 2012-09-07 14:58, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:34:18PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>> On 2012-09-06 16:34, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >>>> Reusing bios is something that's been highly frowned upon in the past,
> >>>> but driver code keeps doing it anyways. If it's going to happen anyways,
> >>>> we should provide a generic method.
> >>>>
> >>>> This'll help with getting rid of bi_destructor - drivers/block/pktcdvd.c
> >>>> was open coding it, by doing a bio_init() and resetting bi_destructor.
> >>>>
> >>>> This required reordering struct bio, but the block layer is not yet
> >>>> nearly fast enough for any cacheline effects to matter here.
> >>>
> >>> That's an odd and misplaced comment. Was just doing testing today at 5M
> >>> IOPS, and even years back we've had cache effects for O_DIRECT in higher
> >>> speed setups.
> >>
> >> Ah, I wasn't aware that you were pushing that many iops through the
> >> block layer - most I've tested myself was around 1M. It wouldn't
> >> surprise me if cache effects in struct bio mattered around 5M...
> > 
> > 5M is nothing, just did 13.5M :-)
> > 
> > But we can reshuffle for now. As mentioned, we're way overdue for a
> > decent look at cache profiling in any case.
> 
> No ill effects seen so far, fwiw:
> 
>   read : io=1735.8GB, bw=53690MB/s, iops=13745K, runt= 33104msec

Cool!

I'd be really curious to see a profile. Of the patches I've got queued
up I don't think anything's going to significantly affect performance
yet, but I'm hoping the cleanups/immutable bvec stuff/efficient bio
splitting enables some performance gains.

Well, it certainly will for stacking drivers, but I'm less sure what
it's going to look like running on just a raw flash device.

My end goal is making generic_make_request handle arbitrary sized bios,
and have (efficient) splitting happen as required. This'll get rid of a
bunch of code and complexity in the upper layers, in bio_add_page() and
elsewhere. More in the stacking drivers - merge_bvec_fn is horrendous to
support.

I think I might be able to efficiently get rid of the
segments-after-merging precalculating, and just have segments merged
once. That'd get rid of a couple fields in struct bio, and get it under
2 cachelines last I counted.

Course, all this doesn't matter as much for 4k bios so it may just be a
wash for you.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 4/8] block: Add bio_reset()
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:25:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120907222522.GE16360@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <504A6FF5.3090603@kernel.dk>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:45PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2012-09-07 15:55, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On 2012-09-07 14:58, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:34:18PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>> On 2012-09-06 16:34, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >>>> Reusing bios is something that's been highly frowned upon in the past,
> >>>> but driver code keeps doing it anyways. If it's going to happen anyways,
> >>>> we should provide a generic method.
> >>>>
> >>>> This'll help with getting rid of bi_destructor - drivers/block/pktcdvd.c
> >>>> was open coding it, by doing a bio_init() and resetting bi_destructor.
> >>>>
> >>>> This required reordering struct bio, but the block layer is not yet
> >>>> nearly fast enough for any cacheline effects to matter here.
> >>>
> >>> That's an odd and misplaced comment. Was just doing testing today at 5M
> >>> IOPS, and even years back we've had cache effects for O_DIRECT in higher
> >>> speed setups.
> >>
> >> Ah, I wasn't aware that you were pushing that many iops through the
> >> block layer - most I've tested myself was around 1M. It wouldn't
> >> surprise me if cache effects in struct bio mattered around 5M...
> > 
> > 5M is nothing, just did 13.5M :-)
> > 
> > But we can reshuffle for now. As mentioned, we're way overdue for a
> > decent look at cache profiling in any case.
> 
> No ill effects seen so far, fwiw:
> 
>   read : io=1735.8GB, bw=53690MB/s, iops=13745K, runt= 33104msec

Cool!

I'd be really curious to see a profile. Of the patches I've got queued
up I don't think anything's going to significantly affect performance
yet, but I'm hoping the cleanups/immutable bvec stuff/efficient bio
splitting enables some performance gains.

Well, it certainly will for stacking drivers, but I'm less sure what
it's going to look like running on just a raw flash device.

My end goal is making generic_make_request handle arbitrary sized bios,
and have (efficient) splitting happen as required. This'll get rid of a
bunch of code and complexity in the upper layers, in bio_add_page() and
elsewhere. More in the stacking drivers - merge_bvec_fn is horrendous to
support.

I think I might be able to efficiently get rid of the
segments-after-merging precalculating, and just have segments merged
once. That'd get rid of a couple fields in struct bio, and get it under
2 cachelines last I counted.

Course, all this doesn't matter as much for 4k bios so it may just be a
wash for you.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-07 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-06 22:34 [PATCH v10 0/8] Block cleanups Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] block: Generalized bio pool freeing Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34   ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <1346970902-10931-2-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:28     ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-14 18:28       ` Alasdair G Kergon
     [not found]       ` <20120914182828.GK15728-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 20:51         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-17 20:51           ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120917205139.GB14492-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18 16:31             ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-18 16:31               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-14 18:36     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-14 18:36       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] block: Ues bi_pool for bio_integrity_alloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34   ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] dm: Use bioset's front_pad for dm_rq_clone_bio_info Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] block: Add bio_reset() Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <1346970902-10931-5-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07  1:34     ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07  1:34       ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 20:58       ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]         ` <20120907205823.GD16360-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 21:55           ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 21:55             ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]             ` <504A6D57.1030607-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:06               ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 22:06                 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                 ` <504A6FF5.3090603-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:25                   ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2012-09-07 22:25                     ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                     ` <20120907222522.GE16360-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 22:44                       ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 22:44                         ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                         ` <504A78B0.8010105-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 23:14                           ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-07 23:14                             ` Alasdair G Kergon
     [not found]                             ` <20120907231433.GE10309-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07 23:25                               ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-07 23:25                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:34 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] pktcdvd: Switch to bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] block: Kill bi_destructor Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <1346970902-10931-7-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:42     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 23:42       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] block: Consolidate bio_alloc_bioset(), bio_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <1346970902-10931-8-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:45     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 23:45       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] block: Add bio_clone_bioset(), bio_clone_kmalloc() Kent Overstreet
     [not found]   ` <1346970902-10931-9-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:46     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 23:46       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 21:50     ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-14 21:50       ` Alasdair G Kergon
     [not found]       ` <20120914215059.GQ15728-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 20:42         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-17 20:42           ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]           ` <20120917204227.GA14492-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18 16:15             ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-09-18 16:15               ` Alasdair G Kergon
     [not found] ` <1346970902-10931-1-git-send-email-koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-06 23:48   ` [PATCH v10 0/8] Block cleanups Tejun Heo
2012-09-06 23:48     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20120906234805.GD9426-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-07  1:37       ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07  1:37         ` Jens Axboe
2012-09-07 20:44         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-11  4:43       ` NeilBrown
2012-09-11  4:43         ` NeilBrown

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