From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
aarcange@redhat.com, Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/2] numa, mm: Rename the PROT_NONE fault handling functions
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:29:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121021132921.GA23425@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5083F720.2030003@redhat.com>
* Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 10/21/2012 08:50 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> >* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >>>>I don't much care either way, but I was thinking walken
> >>>>might want to use something similar to do WSS estimation,
> >>>>in which case the NUMA name is just as wrong.
> >>>
> >>>That's a good point. I had not considered other uses of the
> >>>same code.
> >>
> >>Renaming the functions for more clarity still makes sense IMO:
> >>we could give it a _wss or _working_set prefix/postfix?
> >
> >So, to not drop your patch on the floor I've modified it as per
> >the patch below.
> >
> >The _wss() names signal that these handlers are used for a
> >specific purpose, they are not related to the regular PROT_NONE
> >handling code.
>
> Michel indicated that he does not use PROT_NONE for his
> working set estimation code, but instead checks the accessed
> bits in the page tables.
The pte_young() WSS method has a couple of fundamental
limitations:
- it doesn't work with shared memory very well, the pte is per
mapping, not per page. The PROT_NONE method instruments the
physical page in essence.
- it does not tell us which task touched the pte, in a
multi-threaded program
So like Peter I'd too expect these new WSS methods to eventually
be picked up for any serious WSS work.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-21 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-18 21:18 [PATCH 0/2] minor NUMA cleanups & documentation Rik van Riel
2012-10-18 21:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] add credits for NUMA placement Rik van Riel
2012-10-19 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 12:02 ` [tip:numa/core] numa: Add " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-10-28 17:11 ` [tip:numa/core] sched, numa, mm: " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-11-13 15:31 ` tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-11-13 17:23 ` tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-11-19 19:46 ` tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-10-18 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] rename NUMA fault handling functions Rik van Riel
2012-10-19 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 14:07 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-19 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-21 12:50 ` [PATCH 4/2] numa, mm: Rename the PROT_NONE " Ingo Molnar
2012-10-21 13:22 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-21 13:29 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-10-21 13:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-20 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] rename NUMA " Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-21 15:20 ` [tip:numa/core] numa, mm: Rename the PROT_NONE fault handling functions to *_numa() tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-10-23 11:00 ` tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2012-10-21 12:43 ` [PATCH 3/2] sched, numa, mm: Implement constant rate working set sampling Ingo Molnar
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