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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] cgroup: cgroup_subsys->fork() should be called after the task is added to css_set
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:04:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121024190458.GB12182@atj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121023155128.GB16201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hello,

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:51:28PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Yes, yes. But in this case (I mean, for uprobes) "threadgroup" in the name
> is misleading. It should be called unconditially without any argument.
> 
> Please see
> 
> 	[PATCH 1/2] brw_mutex: big read-write mutex
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=135032816223715

Ooh... that's something completely different.

> 	[PATCH 2/2] uprobes: Use brw_mutex to fix register/unregister vs dup_mmap() race
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=135032817823720
> 
> for details, but in short 2/2 needs this giant lock to block dup_mmap()
> system-wide, while cgroup (currently) only needs threadgroup lock if
> CLONE_THREAD (ignoring do_exit) and per-task.
> 
> So please forget, I no longer think it makes sense to use the same
> thing for uprobes and cgroups.

It is quite tempting to reduce hot path overhead and penalize cgroup
migration ops more tho.  Write-locking brw_mutex on migration might
not be too bad.  Why did you change your mind?

Thanks.

--
tejun

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lizefan@huawei.com,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] cgroup: cgroup_subsys->fork() should be called after the task is added to css_set
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:04:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121024190458.GB12182@atj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121023155128.GB16201@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:51:28PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Yes, yes. But in this case (I mean, for uprobes) "threadgroup" in the name
> is misleading. It should be called unconditially without any argument.
> 
> Please see
> 
> 	[PATCH 1/2] brw_mutex: big read-write mutex
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=135032816223715

Ooh... that's something completely different.

> 	[PATCH 2/2] uprobes: Use brw_mutex to fix register/unregister vs dup_mmap() race
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=135032817823720
> 
> for details, but in short 2/2 needs this giant lock to block dup_mmap()
> system-wide, while cgroup (currently) only needs threadgroup lock if
> CLONE_THREAD (ignoring do_exit) and per-task.
> 
> So please forget, I no longer think it makes sense to use the same
> thing for uprobes and cgroups.

It is quite tempting to reduce hot path overhead and penalize cgroup
migration ops more tho.  Write-locking brw_mutex on migration might
not be too bad.  Why did you change your mind?

Thanks.

--
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-24 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16 22:28 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] cgroup_freezer: allow migration regardless of freezer state and update locking Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28 ` [PATCH 5/7] cgroup_freezer: allow moving tasks in and out of a frozen cgroup Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1350426526-14254-6-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 19:25     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 19:25     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 19:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]       ` <20121022192506.GA27163-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 21:25         ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-22 21:25           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20121022212505.GG5951-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 16:14             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 16:14               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 16:14             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 21:25         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1350426526-14254-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 1/7] cgroup: cgroup_subsys->fork() should be called after the task is added to css_set Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1350426526-14254-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17  8:28       ` Li Zefan
2012-10-17  8:28         ` Li Zefan
     [not found]         ` <507E6C4B.6000704-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18  1:25           ` Li Zefan
2012-10-18  1:25             ` Li Zefan
2012-10-18  1:25           ` Li Zefan
2012-10-21 19:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-21 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20121021191141.GA26218-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-21 19:22           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-21 19:22           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-21 19:22             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121021192222.GB5951-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 18:04               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 18:04                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20121022180445.GB21553-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 21:16                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-22 21:16                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20121022211631.GE5951-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 15:51                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 15:51                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20121023155128.GB16201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 19:04                           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-10-24 19:04                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                             ` <20121024190458.GB12182-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:42                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:42                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-20  5:25       ` Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski
2012-12-20  5:25         ` Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski
2012-12-28 21:22         ` [PATCH] cgroup: remove unused dummy cgroup_fork_callbacks() Tejun Heo
2012-12-28 21:22           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 2/7] freezer: add missing mb's to freezer_count() and freezer_should_skip() Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1350426526-14254-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 17:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 17:44         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20121022174404.GA21553-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 21:13           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-22 21:13             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121022211317.GD5951-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 15:39               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 15:39                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20121023153919.GA16201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 18:57                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-24 18:57                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-24 18:57                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20121024185710.GA12182-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 16:39                       ` [PATCH 0/1] (Was: freezer: add missing mb's to freezer_count() and freezer_should_skip()) Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 16:39                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20121025163941.GA3801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 16:39                           ` [PATCH 1/1] freezer: change ptrace_stop/do_signal_stop to use freezable_schedule() Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 16:39                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20121025163959.GB3801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:18                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-25 17:18                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20121025171812.GE11442-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:34                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:34                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20121025173433.GA7650-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:36                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-25 17:36                                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                         ` <20121025173632.GI11442-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 17:45                                           ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 17:45                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                             ` <20121026174545.GA21639-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 17:46                                               ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 17:46                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                 ` <20121026174606.GB21639-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 17:52                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-26 17:52                                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                     ` <20121026175258.GV11442-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 18:01                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 18:01                                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20121026180149.GA22421-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 21:14                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-26 21:14                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                             ` <2566006.UzAQbpOjNQ-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 21:29                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-26 21:29                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                 ` <2718983.vORnrfWdbE-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-26 21:29                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-26 21:29                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20121026212909.GW11442-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-28  0:16                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-28  0:16                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-28  0:16                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-26 21:29                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-26 21:14                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-26 18:01                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-27 22:22                                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-27 22:22                                                     ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]                                                     ` <1351376558.21585.1.camel-nDn/Rdv9kqW9Jme8/bJn5UCKIB8iOfG2tUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-28 13:45                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-28 13:45                                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-27 22:22                                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2012-10-25 17:34                                   ` [PATCH " Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:18                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 3/7] cgroup_freezer: make it official that writes to freezer.state don't fail Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 4/7] cgroup_freezer: don't stall transition to FROZEN for PF_NOFREEZE or PF_FREEZER_SKIP tasks Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1350426526-14254-5-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 18:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 18:34         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20121022183453.GA24687-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 21:18           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-22 21:18             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121022211822.GF5951-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23 15:55               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 15:55               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 15:55                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20121023155533.GC16201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-24 19:06                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-24 19:06                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20121024190651.GC12182-OlzNCW9NnSVy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:12                       ` [PATCH 0/1] (Was: cgroup_freezer: don't stall transition to FROZEN for PF_NOFREEZE or PF_FREEZER_SKIP tasks) Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:12                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20121025171236.GA6776-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:12                           ` [PATCH 1/1] freezer: exec should clear PF_NOFREEZE along with PF_KTHREAD Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:12                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20121025171256.GB6776-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-25 17:20                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20121025172016.GF11442-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:37                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-25 17:37                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20121025173756.GB7650-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 17:37                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-25 17:37                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-25 20:13                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                         ` <CAOS58YPAVVr=itauGD9eTpfRLSBLuM8Bpyuq9AP73MDr8dPmiQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-25 20:13                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-25 17:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-22 18:34       ` [PATCH 4/7] cgroup_freezer: don't stall transition to FROZEN for PF_NOFREEZE or PF_FREEZER_SKIP tasks Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 5/7] cgroup_freezer: allow moving tasks in and out of a frozen cgroup Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 6/7] cgroup_freezer: prepare update_if_frozen() for locking change Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28   ` [PATCH 7/7] cgroup_freezer: don't use cgroup_lock_live_group() Tejun Heo
2012-10-16 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-17 19:16   ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] cgroup_freezer: allow migration regardless of freezer state and update locking Matt Helsley
2012-10-17 19:16     ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]     ` <20121017191606.GA6223-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 21:14       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 21:14       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 21:14         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121018211434.GI13370-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 22:21           ` Matt Helsley
2012-10-18 22:21             ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]             ` <20121018222155.GB6223-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 22:35               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 22:35                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20121018223517.GQ13370-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 23:47                   ` Matt Helsley
2012-10-18 23:47                     ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                     ` <20121018234726.GC6223-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19  0:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19  0:01                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20121019000153.GZ13370-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19  1:29                           ` Matt Helsley
2012-10-19  1:29                             ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                             ` <20121019012945.GD6223-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19 20:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 20:02                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 20:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19  1:29                           ` Matt Helsley
2012-10-19  0:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 16:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-10-19 16:54     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <2424755.Pg0O5tTD3k-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19 20:04       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 20:04         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121019200421.GO13370-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-21 19:18           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-21 19:18             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20121021191853.GB26218-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-21 19:24               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-21 19:24                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 20:04       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-19 16:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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