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From: Aristeu Rozanski <aris-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Linux Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump: run the coredump helper using the same namespace as the dead process
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:18:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121105201825.GM14789@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4o7alod.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:34:26AM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> I would argue that you very much need to define what it means to have a
> per container core dump at the same time as you argue this.
> 
> Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> 
> Running in a namespace different than whoever set the core dump
> pattern/helper makes core dump helpers much more attackable.  With this
> patch and a little creativity I expect I can get root to write to
> whatever file I would like.  Since I also control the content of what is
> going into that file.... This design seems emintely exploitable.

Understood. Indeed this is bad design. Having it tied to the mount
namespace of the process setting the pattern/helper, therefore any
process crashing under the same mount namespace would use the same
pattern/helper? 

> Furthermore not all namespaces are pointed at by nsproxy, so even
> for it's original design this patch is buggy.

is it userns? I just assumed it wasn't there yet because it's being
worked on.

> I do think supporting a per container coredump setting makes a lot of
> sense but I do not think this patch is the way to do it.

I understand, thanks for the time reviewing it.


-- 
Aristeu

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From: Aristeu Rozanski <aris@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump: run the coredump helper using the same namespace as the dead process
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:18:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121105201825.GM14789@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4o7alod.fsf@xmission.com>

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:34:26AM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> I would argue that you very much need to define what it means to have a
> per container core dump at the same time as you argue this.
> 
> Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> 
> Running in a namespace different than whoever set the core dump
> pattern/helper makes core dump helpers much more attackable.  With this
> patch and a little creativity I expect I can get root to write to
> whatever file I would like.  Since I also control the content of what is
> going into that file.... This design seems emintely exploitable.

Understood. Indeed this is bad design. Having it tied to the mount
namespace of the process setting the pattern/helper, therefore any
process crashing under the same mount namespace would use the same
pattern/helper? 

> Furthermore not all namespaces are pointed at by nsproxy, so even
> for it's original design this patch is buggy.

is it userns? I just assumed it wasn't there yet because it's being
worked on.

> I do think supporting a per container coredump setting makes a lot of
> sense but I do not think this patch is the way to do it.

I understand, thanks for the time reviewing it.


-- 
Aristeu


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-05 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05 16:38 [PATCH] coredump: run the coredump helper using the same namespace as the dead process Aristeu Rozanski
2012-11-05 16:38 ` Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found] ` <20121105163810.GJ14789-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 19:34   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 19:34     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87r4o7alod.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 20:18       ` Aristeu Rozanski [this message]
2012-11-05 20:18         ` Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found]         ` <20121105201825.GM14789-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 21:13           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 21:13             ` Eric W. Biederman

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