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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/7] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:29:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121120152946.823cd2d9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121109145829.GC4308@optiplex.redhat.com>

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:58:29 -0200
Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 12:20:33PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 01:05:54AM -0200, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > > This patch introduces a new set of vm event counters to keep track of
> > > ballooned pages compaction activity.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Other than confirming the thing actually works can any meaningful
> > conclusions be drawn from this counters?
> > 
> > I know I have been inconsistent on this myself in the past but recently
> > I've been taking the attitude that the counters can be used to fit into
> > some other metric. I'm looking to change the compaction counters to be
> > able to build a basic cost model for example. The same idea could be
> > used for balloons of course but it's a less critical path than
> > compaction for THP for example.
> > 
> > Assuming it builds and all the defines are correct when the feature is
> > not configured (I didn't check) then there is nothing wrong with the
> > patch. However, if it was dropped would it make life very hard or would
> > you notice?
> > 
> 
> Originally, I proposed this patch as droppable (and it's still droppable)
> because its major purpose was solely to show the thing working consistently
> 
> OTOH, it might make the life easier to spot breakages if it remains with the
> merged bits, and per a reviewer request I removed its 'DROP BEFORE MERGE'
> disclaimer.
> 
>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/8/616

There's a lot to be said for not merging things.

I think I'll maintain this as a mm-only patch.  That way it's
available in linux-next and we can merge it later if a need arises.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/7] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:29:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121120152946.823cd2d9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121109145829.GC4308@optiplex.redhat.com>

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:58:29 -0200
Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 12:20:33PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 01:05:54AM -0200, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > > This patch introduces a new set of vm event counters to keep track of
> > > ballooned pages compaction activity.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Other than confirming the thing actually works can any meaningful
> > conclusions be drawn from this counters?
> > 
> > I know I have been inconsistent on this myself in the past but recently
> > I've been taking the attitude that the counters can be used to fit into
> > some other metric. I'm looking to change the compaction counters to be
> > able to build a basic cost model for example. The same idea could be
> > used for balloons of course but it's a less critical path than
> > compaction for THP for example.
> > 
> > Assuming it builds and all the defines are correct when the feature is
> > not configured (I didn't check) then there is nothing wrong with the
> > patch. However, if it was dropped would it make life very hard or would
> > you notice?
> > 
> 
> Originally, I proposed this patch as droppable (and it's still droppable)
> because its major purpose was solely to show the thing working consistently
> 
> OTOH, it might make the life easier to spot breakages if it remains with the
> merged bits, and per a reviewer request I removed its 'DROP BEFORE MERGE'
> disclaimer.
> 
>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/8/616

There's a lot to be said for not merging things.

I think I'll maintain this as a mm-only patch.  That way it's
available in linux-next and we can merge it later if a need arises.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/7] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:29:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121120152946.823cd2d9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121109145829.GC4308@optiplex.redhat.com>

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:58:29 -0200
Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 12:20:33PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 01:05:54AM -0200, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > > This patch introduces a new set of vm event counters to keep track of
> > > ballooned pages compaction activity.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Other than confirming the thing actually works can any meaningful
> > conclusions be drawn from this counters?
> > 
> > I know I have been inconsistent on this myself in the past but recently
> > I've been taking the attitude that the counters can be used to fit into
> > some other metric. I'm looking to change the compaction counters to be
> > able to build a basic cost model for example. The same idea could be
> > used for balloons of course but it's a less critical path than
> > compaction for THP for example.
> > 
> > Assuming it builds and all the defines are correct when the feature is
> > not configured (I didn't check) then there is nothing wrong with the
> > patch. However, if it was dropped would it make life very hard or would
> > you notice?
> > 
> 
> Originally, I proposed this patch as droppable (and it's still droppable)
> because its major purpose was solely to show the thing working consistently
> 
> OTOH, it might make the life easier to spot breakages if it remains with the
> merged bits, and per a reviewer request I removed its 'DROP BEFORE MERGE'
> disclaimer.
> 
>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/8/616

There's a lot to be said for not merging things.

I think I'll maintain this as a mm-only patch.  That way it's
available in linux-next and we can merge it later if a need arises.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-20 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-07  3:05 [PATCH v11 0/7] make balloon pages movable by compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 1/7] mm: adjust address_space_operations.migratepage() return code Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 19:56   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 19:56     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 19:56     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 21:39     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 21:39     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 21:39       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 2/7] mm: redefine address_space.assoc_mapping Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 3/7] mm: introduce a common interface for balloon pages mobility Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 21:02   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 21:02     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 21:02     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 21:34     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 21:34     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 21:34       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 12:11   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 12:11     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 14:53     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 14:53       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 16:23       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 16:23       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 16:23         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 17:58         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 17:58         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 17:58           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 14:53     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 12:11   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 4/7] mm: introduce compaction and migration for ballooned pages Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 12:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 12:16     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20 23:33     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-20 23:33       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-20 23:33       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-27 11:59       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-27 11:59       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-27 11:59         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 12:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 5/7] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 19:58   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 19:58     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 19:58     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-07 22:02     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 22:02     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 22:02       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07 23:02   ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-07 23:02     ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-07 23:02     ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-08  0:11     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-08  0:11       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-08  0:11       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-08  0:32       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-08  0:32         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-08  0:32       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-10 15:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:53         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-08  0:34     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-08  0:34     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-08  0:34       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-12  7:49       ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-12  7:49         ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-12  7:49         ` Rusty Russell
2012-11-10 15:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 6/7] mm: introduce putback_movable_pages() Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` [PATCH v11 7/7] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 12:20   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 12:20     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 12:20     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 14:58     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-09 14:58       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-20 23:29       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2012-11-20 23:29         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-20 23:29         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-09 14:58     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-10 15:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-10 15:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-11-11 19:22     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-11 19:22       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-11 19:22     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-11-07  3:05 ` Rafael Aquini

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