From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, oleg@redhat.com, sbw@mit.edu,
amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:31:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121207183141.GC2821@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C23441.7020309@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Hello, Srivatsa.
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:54:01PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> > lg_lock doesn't do local nesting and I'm not sure how big a deal that
> > is as I don't know how many should be converted. But if nesting is an
> > absolute necessity, it would be much better to implement generic
> > rwlock variant (say, lg_rwlock) rather than implementing unusual
> > cpuhotplug-specific percpu synchronization construct.
>
> To be honest, at a certain point in time while designing this, I did
> realize that this was getting kinda overly complicated ;-) ... but I
> wanted to see how this would actually work out when finished and get
> some feedback on the same, hence I posted it out. But this also proves
> that we _can_ actually compete with the flexibility of preempt_disable()
> and still be safe with respect to locking, if we really want to ;-)
I got confused by comparison to preempt_disable() but you're right
that percpu rwlock shouldn't be able to introduce locking dependency
which doesn't exist with non-percpu rwlock. ie. write locking should
be atomic w.r.t. to all readers. At the simplest, this can be
implemented by writer backing out all the way if try-locking any CPU
fails and retrying the whole thing. That should be correct but has
the potential of starving the writer.
What we need here is a generic percpu-rwlock. I don't know which
exact implementation strategy we should choose. Maybe your switching
to global rwlock is the right solution. But, at any rate, I think it
would be best to implement proper percpu-rwlock and then apply it to
CPU hotplug. It's actually gonna be pretty fitting as
get_online_cpus() is being converted to percpu-rwsem. IIUC, Oleg has
been working on this for a while now. Oleg, what do you think?
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-07 18:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-07 17:37 [RFC PATCH v3 0/9] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-07 18:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-07 18:33 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 18:24 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 18:31 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-12-07 18:38 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-09 19:50 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 4:28 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 17:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:13 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 13:47 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-11 14:02 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:07 ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-11 16:28 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 21:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 5:01 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 17:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:05 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 5:19 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 18:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:04 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/9] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/9] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/9] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/9] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 19:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-09 19:57 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 4:04 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/9] kvm, vmx: Add atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 9/9] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
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