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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, sbw@mit.edu,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:32:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C73CE5.1080201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121211134758.GA7084@htj.dyndns.org>

On 12/11/2012 07:17 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Srivatsa.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:43:54PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> This approach (of using synchronize_sched()) also looks good. It is simple,
>> yet effective, but unfortunately inefficient at the writer side (because
>> he'll have to wait for a full synchronize_sched()).
> 
> While synchornize_sched() is heavier on the writer side than the
> originally posted version, it doesn't stall the whole machine and
> wouldn't introduce latencies to others.  Shouldn't that be enough?
> 

Short answer: Yes. But we can do better, with almost comparable code
complexity. So I'm tempted to try that out.

Long answer:
Even in the synchronize_sched() approach, we still have to identify the
readers who need to be converted to use the new get/put_online_cpus_atomic()
APIs and convert them. Then, if we can come up with a scheme such that
the writer has to wait only for those readers to complete, then why not?

If such a scheme ends up becoming too complicated, then I agree, we
can use synchronize_sched() itself. (That's what I meant by saying that
we'll use this as a fallback).

But even in this scheme which uses synchronize_sched(), we are
already half-way through (we already use 2 types of sync schemes -
counters and rwlocks). Just a little more logic can get rid of the
unnecessary full-wait too.. So why not give it a shot?

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-11 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-07 17:37 [RFC PATCH v3 0/9] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:57   ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-07 18:16     ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-07 18:33       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 18:24     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 18:31       ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-07 18:38         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 19:14   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-09 19:50     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:22       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10  4:28         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 17:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:13             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 13:47               ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-11 14:02                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-12-11 14:07                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-11 16:28                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 21:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10  5:01         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 17:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:05             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10  5:19     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-10 18:15       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 13:04         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/9] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/9] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/9] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/9] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 19:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-09 19:57     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-09 20:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10  4:04         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/9] kvm, vmx: Add atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 17:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 9/9] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat

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