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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: paul.szabo@sydney.edu.au
Cc: dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, 695182@bugs.debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reproducible OOM with partial workaround
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:01:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130111000119.8e9bdf5d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301110146.r0B1kF4T032208@como.maths.usyd.edu.au>

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:46:15 +1100 paul.szabo@sydney.edu.au wrote:

> > ... I don't believe 64GB of RAM has _ever_ been booted on a 32-bit
> > kernel without either violating the ABI (3GB/1GB split) or doing
> > something that never got merged upstream ...
> 
> Sorry to be so contradictory:
> 
> psz@como:~$ uname -a
> Linux como.maths.usyd.edu.au 3.2.32-pk06.10-t01-i386 #1 SMP Sat Jan 5 18:34:25 EST 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
> psz@como:~$ free -l
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:      64446900    4729292   59717608          0      15972     480520
> Low:        375836     304400      71436
> High:     64071064    4424892   59646172
> -/+ buffers/cache:    4232800   60214100
> Swap:    134217724          0  134217724
> psz@como:~$ 
> 
> (though I would not know about violations).
> 
> But OK, I take your point that I should move with the times.

Check /proc/slabinfo, see if all your lowmem got eaten up by buffer_heads.

If so, you *may* be able to work around this by setting
/proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio really low, so the system keeps a minimum
amount of dirty pagecache around.  Then, with luck, if we haven't
broken the buffer_heads_over_limit logic it in the past decade (we
probably have), the VM should be able to reclaim those buffer_heads.

Alternatively, use a filesystem which doesn't attach buffer_heads to
dirty pages.  xfs or btrfs, perhaps.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: paul.szabo@sydney.edu.au
Cc: dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, 695182@bugs.debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reproducible OOM with partial workaround
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:01:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130111000119.8e9bdf5d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301110146.r0B1kF4T032208@como.maths.usyd.edu.au>

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:46:15 +1100 paul.szabo@sydney.edu.au wrote:

> > ... I don't believe 64GB of RAM has _ever_ been booted on a 32-bit
> > kernel without either violating the ABI (3GB/1GB split) or doing
> > something that never got merged upstream ...
> 
> Sorry to be so contradictory:
> 
> psz@como:~$ uname -a
> Linux como.maths.usyd.edu.au 3.2.32-pk06.10-t01-i386 #1 SMP Sat Jan 5 18:34:25 EST 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
> psz@como:~$ free -l
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:      64446900    4729292   59717608          0      15972     480520
> Low:        375836     304400      71436
> High:     64071064    4424892   59646172
> -/+ buffers/cache:    4232800   60214100
> Swap:    134217724          0  134217724
> psz@como:~$ 
> 
> (though I would not know about violations).
> 
> But OK, I take your point that I should move with the times.

Check /proc/slabinfo, see if all your lowmem got eaten up by buffer_heads.

If so, you *may* be able to work around this by setting
/proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio really low, so the system keeps a minimum
amount of dirty pagecache around.  Then, with luck, if we haven't
broken the buffer_heads_over_limit logic it in the past decade (we
probably have), the VM should be able to reclaim those buffer_heads.

Alternatively, use a filesystem which doesn't attach buffer_heads to
dirty pages.  xfs or btrfs, perhaps.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-11  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-10 21:58 [RFC] Reproducible OOM with partial workaround paul.szabo
2013-01-10 21:58 ` paul.szabo
2013-01-10 23:12 ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-10 23:12   ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-11  0:46   ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11  0:46     ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11  1:26     ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-11  1:26       ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-11  1:46       ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11  1:46         ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11  8:01         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-01-11  8:01           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-11  8:30           ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-11  8:30             ` Simon Jeons
2013-01-11 11:51           ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11 11:51             ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11 20:31             ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-11 20:31               ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-12  3:24               ` paul.szabo
2013-01-12  3:24                 ` paul.szabo
2013-01-11 16:04         ` Dave Hansen
2013-01-11 16:04           ` Dave Hansen

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