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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] No key available for this passphrase
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:39:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130129023911.GA19313@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFnMBaRDM8HXLi5f3E8sAr5kBSByPiC0uvyuX1wJQ9Mw-i2kmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:46:53PM -0500, .. ink .. wrote:
>  [..]
> 
> > but a function like this or any other
> > mechanism of header-protection would be nice to see as standard for LUKS.
> > Especially because the first keyslot is so likely to be corrupted by
> > partition
> > managers (should be aroud the offset of keyslot 0 where they start to dump
> > their
> > data?).
> >
> >
> has there been any study to find out which ones of the keyslots is most
> likely to get corrupted accidentally by various tools?

I do not think there is enough data. And there is the additional
problem that corruption in others than slot 0 will not be noticed 
by most users. You are welcome to search the mai,ing-list archives 
and generate a statistic, of course. 
 
> will adding keys from the last slot going backwards add some protection
> from keys being inaccessible due to accidental header corruption by various
> tools?

I think most tools will kill the header. After that, damage to 
key-slots does not matter much, as the header carries the all-iportant
salts. While it does happen occasionally that just a key-slot gets 
corrupted, it is rare. The keyslot-checker I wrote was not due to 
a dire need, but because I hacked together a version in Python that 
read the disk directly in a 2-3 hours, and then Milan (rightfully) 
asked me to do it right. Provided entertainment for me for a 
weekend and an opportunity to look at libcryptsetup. I think we 
may have seen someting like 5-6 cases altogether in the last few 
years. No idea how many people managed to kill their LUKS containers, 
but never reported it on the list.

And anyways, disks do die, so data-backup is mandatory even for 
encrypted volumes. See the FAQ for some suggestions.

Arno
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are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-25 17:53 [dm-crypt] No key available for this passphrase Sebastian
2013-01-25 19:40 ` Arno Wagner
2013-01-25 19:57   ` Sebastian
2013-01-25 21:50     ` Arno Wagner
2013-01-26 10:15       ` Sebastian
2013-01-26 17:41         ` Arno Wagner
2013-01-27  8:42           ` Sebastian
2013-01-28 23:46             ` .. ink ..
2013-01-29  2:39               ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2013-01-31 13:43                 ` Sebastian
2013-01-31 17:48                   ` .. ink ..
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-08  9:03 Marcos
2012-09-08 13:35 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 18:47   ` Marcos
2012-09-08 20:02     ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 20:51       ` Marcos
2012-09-08 22:47         ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-09 12:53           ` Marcos
2012-09-09 13:49             ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-09 14:06               ` Marcos
2012-09-08 22:45       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2012-09-09  8:45         ` Milan Broz
2012-09-09 13:42           ` Arno Wagner

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