From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
Cc: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
Naveen Krishna Chatradhi <ch.naveen@samsung.com>,
Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] iio: Add OF support
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:01:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130203170107.GD21576@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1915802.t7OItgMRJy@flatron>
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:52:40PM +0100, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Sunday 03 of February 2013 12:29:23 Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> > On 02/03/2013 03:06 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:30:24AM +0100, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > >> Hi Guenter,
> > >>
> > >> Some comments inline.
> > >>
> > >> On Saturday 02 of February 2013 16:59:40 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >>> Provide bindings and parse OF data during initialization.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> - Documentation update per feedback
> > >>> - Dropped io-channel-output-names from the bindings document. The
> > >>> property is not used in the code, and it is not entirely clear what
> > >>> it
> > >>> would be used for. If there is a need for it, we can add it back in
> > >>> later on.
> > >>> - Don't export OF specific API calls
> > >>> - For OF support, no longer depend on iio_map
> > >>> - Add #ifdef CONFIG_OF where appropriate, and ensure that the code
> > >>> still builds if it is not selected.
> > >>> - Change iio_channel_get to take device pointer as argument instead
> > >>> of
> > >>> device name. Retain old API as of_iio_channel_get_sys.
> > >>> - iio_channel_get now works for both OF and non-OF configurations.
> > >>>
> > >>> .../devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt | 76 ++++++++
> > >>> drivers/iio/inkern.c | 186
> > >>>
> > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 262 insertions(+)
> > >>>
> > >>> create mode 100644
> > >>>
> > >>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>>
> > >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt new file
> > >>> mode
> > >>> 100644
> > >>> index 0000000..58df5f6
> > >>> --- /dev/null
> > >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>> @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@
> > >>> +This binding is a work-in-progress. It is derived from clock
> > >>> bindings,
> > >>> +and based on suggestions from Lars-Peter Clausen [1].
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Sources of IIO channels can be represented by any node in the
> > >>> device
> > >>> +tree. Those nodes are designated as IIO providers. IIO consumer
> > >>> +nodes use a phandle and IIO specifier pair to connect IIO provider
> > >>> +outputs to IIO inputs. Similar to the gpio specifiers, an IIO
> > >>> +specifier is an array of one or more cells identifying the IIO
> > >>> +output on a device. The length of an IIO specifier is defined by
> > >>> the
> > >>> +value of a #io-channel-cells property in the clock provider node.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +[1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-iio&m=135902119507483&w=2
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==IIO providers==
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Required properties:
> > >>> +#io-channel-cells: Number of cells in an IIO specifier; Typically 0
> > >>> for nodes + with a single IIO output and 1 for nodes with
> > >>> multiple + IIO outputs.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +For example:
> > >>> +
> > >>> + adc: adc@35 {
> > >>> + compatible = "maxim,max1139";
> > >>> + reg = <0x35>;
> > >>> + #io-channel-cells = <1>;
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==IIO consumers==
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Required properties:
> > >>> +io-channels: List of phandle and IIO specifier pairs, one pair
> > >>> + for each IIO input to the device. Note: if the
> > >>> + IIO provider specifies '0' for #clock-cells, then
> > >>> + only the phandle portion of the pair will appear.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Optional properties:
> > >>> +io-channel-names:
> > >>> + List of IIO input name strings sorted in the same
> > >>> + order as the io-channels property. Consumers drivers
> > >>> + will use io-channel-names to match IIO input names
> > >>> + with IIO specifiers.
> > >>> +io-channel-ranges:
> > >>> + Empty property indicating that child nodes can inherit
> named
> > >>> + IIO channels from this node. Useful for bus nodes to
> provide
> > >>> + and IIO channel to their children.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +For example:
> > >>> +
> > >>> + device {
> > >>> + io-channels = <&adc 1>, <&ref 0>;
> > >>> + io-channel-names = "vcc", "vdd";
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> +This represents a device with two IIO inputs, named "vcc" and
> > >>> "vdd".
> > >>> +The vcc channel is connected to output 1 of the &adc device, and
> > >>> the
> > >>> +vdd channel is connected to output 0 of the &ref device.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==Example==
> > >>> +
> > >>> + adc: max1139@35 {
> > >>> + compatible = "maxim,max1139";
> > >>> + reg = <0x35>;
> > >>> + #io-channel-cells = <1>;
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> + ...
> > >>> +
> > >>> + iio_hwmon {
> > >>> + compatible = "iio-hwmon";
> > >>> + io-channels = <&adc 0>, <&adc 1>, <&adc 2>,
> > >>> + <&adc 3>, <&adc 4>, <&adc 5>,
> > >>> + <&adc 6>, <&adc 7>, <&adc 8>,
> > >>> + <&adc 9>, <&adc 10>, <&adc 11>;
> > >>> + io-channel-names = "vcc", "vdd", "vref", "1.2V";
> > >>> + };
> > >>> diff --git a/drivers/iio/inkern.c b/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> index b289915..d48f2a8 100644
> > >>> --- a/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> +++ b/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
> > >>>
> > >>> #include <linux/export.h>
> > >>> #include <linux/slab.h>
> > >>> #include <linux/mutex.h>
> > >>>
> > >>> +#include <linux/of.h>
> > >>>
> > >>> #include <linux/iio/iio.h>
> > >>> #include "iio_core.h"
> > >>>
> > >>> @@ -92,6 +93,179 @@ static const struct iio_chan_spec
> > >>>
> > >>> return chan;
> > >>>
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>> +#ifdef CONFIG_OF
> > >>> +
> > >>> +static int iio_dev_node_match(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > >>> +{
> > >>> + return !strcmp(dev->type->name, "iio_device") && dev->of_node
> ==
> > >>
> > >> data;
> > >>
> > >> Hmm, do you need to check type name here? One device node should
> > >> rather
> > >> represent only one device, making node an unique identifier.
> > >>
> > >> It this is meant to be a sanity check, it could be done one time
> > >> after
> > >> finding the device.
> > >
> > > Hi Tomasz,
> > >
> > > This is what Lars had suggested earlier:
> > >> Yes, use bus_find_device on iio_bus_type. A nice example how to use
> > >> this to lookup device by of node is of_find_i2c_device_by_node. For
> > >> IIO you also need to make sure that dev->type is iio_dev_type, since
> > >> both devices and triggers are registered on the same bus.
> > >
> > > Is it really needed, or in other words would it be sufficient to check
> > > if of_node and data match each other ? Your reasoning makes sense to
> > > me, and I had thought about it as well, but I don't really know, and
> > > I don't know how I could test it and guarantee correctness either.
> > > I'll be happy to take the strcmp() out if someone tells me that it is
> > > definitely not needed ...
> >
> > A IIO trigger and a IIO device may have the same of_node, e.g. if they
> > both belong to the same physical device. But you don't need to do the
> > strcmp just compare dev->type to iio_dev_type i.e. dev->type ==
> > &iio_dev_type. Although it doesn't really matter in practice first
> > check for the of_node then check for the type, since the of_node will
> > only match for a few devices at most, the type will match for quite a
> > few.
>
> I must disagree.
>
> If you have two IIO devices provided by one physical device, then in
> device tree they should be represented as follows:
>
> phys-dev@12345678 {
> compatible = "some-physical-device";
> /* ... */
>
> my_trig: iio-trigger {
> /* ... */
> };
>
> my_dev: iio-device {
> /* ... */
> };
> };
>
> Notice that phys-dev works here as an IIO bus on which its IIO devices are
> available. This is related to the convention that single OF device node
> represents single device, which would be violated otherwise.
>
Right now the iio device is a child of the physical device, and I am simply
passing of_node on to it. guess you are saying that is not correct ?
If so, what would be the correct approach ? Something like the following ?
voltage-sensor@35 {
compatible = "maxim,max1139";
reg = <0x35>;
vcc-supply = <®_3p3v>;
vref-supply = <®_3p3v>;
max1139-iio: iio-device {
device_type = "iio_device";
#io-channel-cells = <1>;
};
};
and in the driver probe function:
if (parent->of_node)
iio_dev->dev.of_node = of_find_node_by_type(parent->of_node, "iio_device");
Another option would be to use of_find_compatible_node() and something like
compatible = "iio-device";
in the iio-device node.
Which one is preferred ?
Thanks,
Guenter
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From: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
linux-iio-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
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Doug Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] iio: Add OF support
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:01:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130203170107.GD21576@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1915802.t7OItgMRJy@flatron>
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:52:40PM +0100, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Sunday 03 of February 2013 12:29:23 Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> > On 02/03/2013 03:06 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:30:24AM +0100, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > >> Hi Guenter,
> > >>
> > >> Some comments inline.
> > >>
> > >> On Saturday 02 of February 2013 16:59:40 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >>> Provide bindings and parse OF data during initialization.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> - Documentation update per feedback
> > >>> - Dropped io-channel-output-names from the bindings document. The
> > >>> property is not used in the code, and it is not entirely clear what
> > >>> it
> > >>> would be used for. If there is a need for it, we can add it back in
> > >>> later on.
> > >>> - Don't export OF specific API calls
> > >>> - For OF support, no longer depend on iio_map
> > >>> - Add #ifdef CONFIG_OF where appropriate, and ensure that the code
> > >>> still builds if it is not selected.
> > >>> - Change iio_channel_get to take device pointer as argument instead
> > >>> of
> > >>> device name. Retain old API as of_iio_channel_get_sys.
> > >>> - iio_channel_get now works for both OF and non-OF configurations.
> > >>>
> > >>> .../devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt | 76 ++++++++
> > >>> drivers/iio/inkern.c | 186
> > >>>
> > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 262 insertions(+)
> > >>>
> > >>> create mode 100644
> > >>>
> > >>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>>
> > >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt new file
> > >>> mode
> > >>> 100644
> > >>> index 0000000..58df5f6
> > >>> --- /dev/null
> > >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
> > >>> @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@
> > >>> +This binding is a work-in-progress. It is derived from clock
> > >>> bindings,
> > >>> +and based on suggestions from Lars-Peter Clausen [1].
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Sources of IIO channels can be represented by any node in the
> > >>> device
> > >>> +tree. Those nodes are designated as IIO providers. IIO consumer
> > >>> +nodes use a phandle and IIO specifier pair to connect IIO provider
> > >>> +outputs to IIO inputs. Similar to the gpio specifiers, an IIO
> > >>> +specifier is an array of one or more cells identifying the IIO
> > >>> +output on a device. The length of an IIO specifier is defined by
> > >>> the
> > >>> +value of a #io-channel-cells property in the clock provider node.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +[1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-iio&m=135902119507483&w=2
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==IIO providers==
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Required properties:
> > >>> +#io-channel-cells: Number of cells in an IIO specifier; Typically 0
> > >>> for nodes + with a single IIO output and 1 for nodes with
> > >>> multiple + IIO outputs.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +For example:
> > >>> +
> > >>> + adc: adc@35 {
> > >>> + compatible = "maxim,max1139";
> > >>> + reg = <0x35>;
> > >>> + #io-channel-cells = <1>;
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==IIO consumers==
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Required properties:
> > >>> +io-channels: List of phandle and IIO specifier pairs, one pair
> > >>> + for each IIO input to the device. Note: if the
> > >>> + IIO provider specifies '0' for #clock-cells, then
> > >>> + only the phandle portion of the pair will appear.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +Optional properties:
> > >>> +io-channel-names:
> > >>> + List of IIO input name strings sorted in the same
> > >>> + order as the io-channels property. Consumers drivers
> > >>> + will use io-channel-names to match IIO input names
> > >>> + with IIO specifiers.
> > >>> +io-channel-ranges:
> > >>> + Empty property indicating that child nodes can inherit
> named
> > >>> + IIO channels from this node. Useful for bus nodes to
> provide
> > >>> + and IIO channel to their children.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +For example:
> > >>> +
> > >>> + device {
> > >>> + io-channels = <&adc 1>, <&ref 0>;
> > >>> + io-channel-names = "vcc", "vdd";
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> +This represents a device with two IIO inputs, named "vcc" and
> > >>> "vdd".
> > >>> +The vcc channel is connected to output 1 of the &adc device, and
> > >>> the
> > >>> +vdd channel is connected to output 0 of the &ref device.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +==Example==
> > >>> +
> > >>> + adc: max1139@35 {
> > >>> + compatible = "maxim,max1139";
> > >>> + reg = <0x35>;
> > >>> + #io-channel-cells = <1>;
> > >>> + };
> > >>> +
> > >>> + ...
> > >>> +
> > >>> + iio_hwmon {
> > >>> + compatible = "iio-hwmon";
> > >>> + io-channels = <&adc 0>, <&adc 1>, <&adc 2>,
> > >>> + <&adc 3>, <&adc 4>, <&adc 5>,
> > >>> + <&adc 6>, <&adc 7>, <&adc 8>,
> > >>> + <&adc 9>, <&adc 10>, <&adc 11>;
> > >>> + io-channel-names = "vcc", "vdd", "vref", "1.2V";
> > >>> + };
> > >>> diff --git a/drivers/iio/inkern.c b/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> index b289915..d48f2a8 100644
> > >>> --- a/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> +++ b/drivers/iio/inkern.c
> > >>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
> > >>>
> > >>> #include <linux/export.h>
> > >>> #include <linux/slab.h>
> > >>> #include <linux/mutex.h>
> > >>>
> > >>> +#include <linux/of.h>
> > >>>
> > >>> #include <linux/iio/iio.h>
> > >>> #include "iio_core.h"
> > >>>
> > >>> @@ -92,6 +93,179 @@ static const struct iio_chan_spec
> > >>>
> > >>> return chan;
> > >>>
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>> +#ifdef CONFIG_OF
> > >>> +
> > >>> +static int iio_dev_node_match(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > >>> +{
> > >>> + return !strcmp(dev->type->name, "iio_device") && dev->of_node
> ==
> > >>
> > >> data;
> > >>
> > >> Hmm, do you need to check type name here? One device node should
> > >> rather
> > >> represent only one device, making node an unique identifier.
> > >>
> > >> It this is meant to be a sanity check, it could be done one time
> > >> after
> > >> finding the device.
> > >
> > > Hi Tomasz,
> > >
> > > This is what Lars had suggested earlier:
> > >> Yes, use bus_find_device on iio_bus_type. A nice example how to use
> > >> this to lookup device by of node is of_find_i2c_device_by_node. For
> > >> IIO you also need to make sure that dev->type is iio_dev_type, since
> > >> both devices and triggers are registered on the same bus.
> > >
> > > Is it really needed, or in other words would it be sufficient to check
> > > if of_node and data match each other ? Your reasoning makes sense to
> > > me, and I had thought about it as well, but I don't really know, and
> > > I don't know how I could test it and guarantee correctness either.
> > > I'll be happy to take the strcmp() out if someone tells me that it is
> > > definitely not needed ...
> >
> > A IIO trigger and a IIO device may have the same of_node, e.g. if they
> > both belong to the same physical device. But you don't need to do the
> > strcmp just compare dev->type to iio_dev_type i.e. dev->type ==
> > &iio_dev_type. Although it doesn't really matter in practice first
> > check for the of_node then check for the type, since the of_node will
> > only match for a few devices at most, the type will match for quite a
> > few.
>
> I must disagree.
>
> If you have two IIO devices provided by one physical device, then in
> device tree they should be represented as follows:
>
> phys-dev@12345678 {
> compatible = "some-physical-device";
> /* ... */
>
> my_trig: iio-trigger {
> /* ... */
> };
>
> my_dev: iio-device {
> /* ... */
> };
> };
>
> Notice that phys-dev works here as an IIO bus on which its IIO devices are
> available. This is related to the convention that single OF device node
> represents single device, which would be violated otherwise.
>
Right now the iio device is a child of the physical device, and I am simply
passing of_node on to it. guess you are saying that is not correct ?
If so, what would be the correct approach ? Something like the following ?
voltage-sensor@35 {
compatible = "maxim,max1139";
reg = <0x35>;
vcc-supply = <®_3p3v>;
vref-supply = <®_3p3v>;
max1139-iio: iio-device {
device_type = "iio_device";
#io-channel-cells = <1>;
};
};
and in the driver probe function:
if (parent->of_node)
iio_dev->dev.of_node = of_find_node_by_type(parent->of_node, "iio_device");
Another option would be to use of_find_compatible_node() and something like
compatible = "iio-device";
in the iio-device node.
Which one is preferred ?
Thanks,
Guenter
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-03 0:59 [RFC v2 0/4] iio: Devicetree support Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] iio: max1363: Use devm_ functions whereever possible to allocate resources Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 12:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 12:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 17:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 17:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 18:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 18:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 18:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 18:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] iio/adc: (max1363) Add support for external reference voltage Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 12:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 12:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 0:59 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] iio: Update iio_channel_get API to use consumer device pointer as argument Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] iio: Add OF support Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 0:59 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 1:30 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 1:30 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 2:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 2:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 11:29 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 11:29 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 11:52 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 11:52 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 12:22 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 12:22 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 17:01 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2013-02-03 17:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 17:30 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 17:30 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 18:55 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 18:55 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 20:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 20:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2013-02-03 22:44 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 22:44 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 23:14 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-03 23:14 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-04 17:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-04 17:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-04 17:41 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-04 17:41 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-04 17:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-04 17:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-04 18:00 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-04 18:00 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-02-04 18:09 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-04 18:09 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 16:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 16:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 19:00 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 19:00 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 14:17 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 14:17 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-02-03 16:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-02-03 16:22 ` Guenter Roeck
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2013-02-04 16:37 ` Guenter Roeck
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