From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Ben Jencks <ben@bjencks.net>,
joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:38:12 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130307193812.GD24233@thinkpad-t410> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130213205558.GA16559@srcf.ucam.org>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 08:55:58PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:32:28PM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 07:09:14PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > Right. My concern here is that Windows clearly doesn't trigger the
> > > issue, and so there's some chance that we'll see similar issues on other
> > > machines. Disabling Windows 8 compatibility isn't really an option. One
> > > choice might be to have the ACPI video driver set all intermediate
> > > values if the system makes the Windows 8 OSI call?
> >
> > This turns out to have some problems. The hotkeys on the x230 at least
> > generate increase/decrease brightness notifications. In response
> > acpi_video reads the current brightness level via _BQC and decides what
> > the next value should be. A value adjacent to a working value is never
> > another working value on this machine, so _BCM does nothing. The next
> > time a notification comes _BQC returns the same value as it did the
> > previous time. Obviously this gets us nowhere.
>
> Nrgh. Having this logic in the kernel has always been miserable. On the
> other hand, having _BQC return wrong values is arguably even worse.
>
> > The (untested) fix I've come up with is to use the cached value for the
> > current brightness rather than asking the firmware. I'm assuming though
> > that acpi_video would be using the cached values already if there wasn't
> > a chance that their changing without its knowledge?
>
> Yeah. What I'd suggest here is calling _BQC after every change, and if
> it returns the old value throw a firmware bug message and fall back to
> using a cached one.
>
> > The other issue with using the cached value is that the hotkeys on these
> > machines are still going to end up cycling through 101 brightness levels
> > with 85% of them leaving the brightness unchanged. When there's that
> > many levels though maybe it makes sense to jump more than one level at a
> > time.
>
> Right. I'd recommend turning off that functionality and just leaving it
> up to userspace. We still seem to be carrying a patch to do that in
> Fedora. I thought I had a patch to make this a config option somewhere,
> but can't find any sign of it now...
I've had the patches implementing your suggestions written for a while
now but just got test feedback this week. So here they are.
Seth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-07 19:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-11 16:21 [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:06 ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 19:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-12 3:05 ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:32 ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 21:04 ` Ben Jencks
2013-02-13 21:49 ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:46 ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:04 ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:38 ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2013-03-07 19:39 ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest Windows version requested via _OSI Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39 ` [PATCH 2/5] acpi_video: Avoid unnecessary conversions between backlight levels and indexes Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39 ` [PATCH 3/5] acpi_video: Add workaround for broken Windows 8 backlight implementations Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:44 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 12:35 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 13:46 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 14:02 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 14:27 ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-07 19:39 ` [PATCH 4/5] acpi_video: Disable use of _BQC when value doesn't match those set through _BCM Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39 ` [PATCH 5/5] acpi_video: Don't handle ACPI brightness notifications by default Seth Forshee
2013-08-02 5:55 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-02 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-02 14:52 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 0:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03 9:46 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 11:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03 12:10 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04 1:08 ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-18 21:25 ` [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 5:18 ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-02 9:15 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 11:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-02 13:44 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 19:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-19 12:24 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-20 22:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21 2:29 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-21 15:46 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-02-13 21:09 ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-01 1:53 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-01 13:03 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 9:08 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 13:00 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 13:43 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03 7:04 ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-03 7:27 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03 13:45 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:39 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-19 3:15 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-20 22:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21 11:07 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 12:11 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22 9:39 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 11:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22 12:11 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:06 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 13:40 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:56 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 14:07 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 15:11 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 2:18 ` joeyli
2013-04-22 10:08 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 12:00 ` joeyli
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