From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Pavel Shilovsky <piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
wine-devel-5vRYHf7vrtgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] NFSD: Pass share reservations flags to VFS
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:11:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130311201108.GE642@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130311160844.7dedf15a-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:08:44PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:36:38 -0400
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:05:40PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > knfsd has some code already to handle share reservations internally.
> > > Nothing outside of knfsd is aware of these reservations, of course so
> > > moving to a vfs-level object for it would be a marked improvement.
> > >
> > > It doesn't look like this patch removes any of that old code though. I
> > > think it probably should, or there ought to be some consideration of
> > > how this new stuff will mesh with it.
> > >
> > > I think you have 2 choices here:
> > >
> > > 1/ rip out the old share reservation code altogether and require that
> > > filesystems mount with -o sharemand or whatever if they want to allow
> > > their enforcement
> > >
> > > 2/ make knfsd fall back to using the internal share reservation code
> > > when the mount option isn't enabled
> > >
> > > Personally, I think #1 would be fine, but Bruce may want to weigh in on
> > > what he'd prefer.
> >
> > #1 sounds good. Clients that use deny bits are few. My preference
> > would be to return an error to such clients in the case share locks
> > aren't available.
> >
> > (We're a little out of spec there, so I'm not sure which error. I think
> > the goal is to notify a human there's a problem with minimal collateral
> > damange.
> >
> > NFS4ERR_SERVERFAULT ("I'm a buggy server, sorry about that!") would
> > probably result in an IO error to the application.
> >
> > SHARE_DENIED strikes me as unsafe: an application would be in its rights
> > not to even check for that e.g. in the case of an exclusive create.
> >
> > Maybe DELAY? Kind of ridiculous, but blocking the application
> > indefinitely would probably get someone's attention quickly enough
> > without doing any damnage.)
> >
>
> I agree that we should return an error, but hadn't considered what
> error. Given that hardly any NFS clients use them, I'd probably just go
> with NFS4ERR_SERVERFAULT, and maybe throw a printk or something on the
> server about enabling share reservations for superblock x:y.
Sounds reasonable.
> Pavel, as a side note, you may want to consider adding a patch to hook
> this stuff up in the NFS client as well.
Definitely.
--b.
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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Pavel Shilovsky <piastry@etersoft.ru>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] NFSD: Pass share reservations flags to VFS
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:11:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130311201108.GE642@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130311160844.7dedf15a@corrin.poochiereds.net>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:08:44PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:36:38 -0400
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:05:40PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > knfsd has some code already to handle share reservations internally.
> > > Nothing outside of knfsd is aware of these reservations, of course so
> > > moving to a vfs-level object for it would be a marked improvement.
> > >
> > > It doesn't look like this patch removes any of that old code though. I
> > > think it probably should, or there ought to be some consideration of
> > > how this new stuff will mesh with it.
> > >
> > > I think you have 2 choices here:
> > >
> > > 1/ rip out the old share reservation code altogether and require that
> > > filesystems mount with -o sharemand or whatever if they want to allow
> > > their enforcement
> > >
> > > 2/ make knfsd fall back to using the internal share reservation code
> > > when the mount option isn't enabled
> > >
> > > Personally, I think #1 would be fine, but Bruce may want to weigh in on
> > > what he'd prefer.
> >
> > #1 sounds good. Clients that use deny bits are few. My preference
> > would be to return an error to such clients in the case share locks
> > aren't available.
> >
> > (We're a little out of spec there, so I'm not sure which error. I think
> > the goal is to notify a human there's a problem with minimal collateral
> > damange.
> >
> > NFS4ERR_SERVERFAULT ("I'm a buggy server, sorry about that!") would
> > probably result in an IO error to the application.
> >
> > SHARE_DENIED strikes me as unsafe: an application would be in its rights
> > not to even check for that e.g. in the case of an exclusive create.
> >
> > Maybe DELAY? Kind of ridiculous, but blocking the application
> > indefinitely would probably get someone's attention quickly enough
> > without doing any damnage.)
> >
>
> I agree that we should return an error, but hadn't considered what
> error. Given that hardly any NFS clients use them, I'd probably just go
> with NFS4ERR_SERVERFAULT, and maybe throw a printk or something on the
> server about enabling share reservations for superblock x:y.
Sounds reasonable.
> Pavel, as a side note, you may want to consider adding a patch to hook
> this stuff up in the NFS client as well.
Definitely.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-11 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-28 15:25 [PATCH v3 0/7] Add O_DENY* support for VFS and CIFS/NFS Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] fcntl: Introduce new O_DENY* open flags Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-2-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-28 15:59 ` Richard Sharpe
[not found] ` <CACyXjPw7eEabP-77YpPz2eOtGWsJNbTEVF968iiWxgamOsbkuA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-28 17:56 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] CIFS: Translate SHARING_VIOLATION to -ETXTBSY error code for SMB2 Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-6-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:35 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 18:35 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130311143507.737f2ab0-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:59 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-11 18:59 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] NFSv4: Add O_DENY* open flags support Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-7-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:54 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 18:54 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130311145434.707f5ed1-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-12 12:35 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-12 12:35 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130312083517.770a17f6-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-04 10:30 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-04-04 10:30 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <CAKywueRSTipeO8V-oNrM=jM8WUo7Dd0ahj_Xcw8f8ViE3NGEOQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-04 13:02 ` Jeff Layton
2013-04-04 13:02 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130404090232.30457b32-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-04 17:45 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-04-04 17:45 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-1-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] vfs: Add O_DENYREAD/WRITE flags support for open syscall Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-3-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:46 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 18:46 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130311144609.2ba86964-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:57 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-11 18:57 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <CAKywueTEXOH3s0z2X7e=QugJaQAZ6JPoaYmYPnFLHMOTC7_y4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 19:10 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 19:10 ` Jeff Layton
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] CIFS: Add O_DENY* open flags support Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-4-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:50 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 18:50 ` Jeff Layton
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] CIFS: Use NT_CREATE_ANDX command for forcemand mounts Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-11 18:52 ` Jeff Layton
2013-02-28 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] NFSD: Pass share reservations flags to VFS Pavel Shilovsky
2013-02-28 15:25 ` Pavel Shilovsky
[not found] ` <1362065133-9490-8-git-send-email-piastry-7qunaywFIewox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 19:05 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 19:05 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130311150540.119abd63-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 19:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-11 19:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130311193638.GB642-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 20:08 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-11 20:08 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20130311160844.7dedf15a-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 20:11 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2013-03-11 20:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-11 20:25 ` Frank S Filz
[not found] ` <OF1D20435B.D7D7B48E-ON87257B2B.006FB8C9-88257B2B.00702F2E-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 20:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-11 20:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-11 20:37 ` Frank S Filz
2013-02-28 21:53 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Add O_DENY* support for VFS and CIFS/NFS Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-28 21:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-03-01 6:44 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-01 8:17 ` David Laight
2013-03-01 8:17 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <512FD1D5.3010106-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 21:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-04 21:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130304211923.GI20389-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 22:49 ` Simo
2013-03-04 22:49 ` Simo
[not found] ` <5135250A.30604-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 18:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-05 18:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130305181306.GA15816-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 19:07 ` Simo
2013-03-05 19:07 ` Simo
[not found] ` <51364285.4040406-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 13:59 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-11 13:59 ` Pavel Shilovsky
2013-03-11 18:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-03-11 18:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXvyXqx+R2wSROEOb+qrSBpPeCGT_9Z6N+QJOU=1aikPw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-11 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
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