From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: pipe_release oops.
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:51:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130312205101.GJ21522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx-8TrSSJZM-WTDN4Hc3pESLXBsGC9x3xVaxuwxnGKqpA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 01:09:16PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Umm... How about the following, then? I think it makes the whole thing
> > simpler and saner... NOTE: this got only a light beating and we'd
> > just seen an example of long-standing breakage in that area; I'd really
> > like to see it tortured by Dave's scripts before it gets merged into
> > mainline.
>
> Looks ok to me.
>
> But it's very hard to see the changes when they are joined by code
> movement, so either I'd almost like to see it split into two ("pure
> movement" followed by "clean up"),
FWIW, that delta came from git diff HEAD^^ ;-) Internally, it's a couple
of commits; see vfs.git#pipe for details.
> or I'd like to feel a lot safer by
> having somebody beat on named pipes with some app that actually uses
> them.
Definitely. Well, one such app is sysvinit, so aforementioned light beating
did include that to some extent, but it certainly needs more testing.
> They are rather seldom used, it's easy to break them and not
> even notice. For example, we have that whole "r/w_counter" logic that
> is subtle (and mis-documented, I notice). It's not a "count of
> readers/writers", it's a "*sequence* count of readers/writers having
> come in", and it's needed for the whole "oh, we're waiting for a
> writer, and one came in, but disappeared before we noticed, but we can
> see that it was there from the sequence number".
... and moreover, it's interacting with poll()/select(). I _think_ it's
OK (note that we only step into that thing when we open an extra descriptor
via /proc/<pid>/fd/<pipe_fd>), but...
> So the whole FIFO code is trivial from the standpoint of sharing all
> the IO code with pipes, but it's nontrivial in having some very
> specific semantics at open time, and it's seldom actually used, and
> easy to get wrong.
>
> So anything like this needs to be either "obviously no semantic
> changes", or needs some real fifo testing.
Agreed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-12 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-07 2:16 BUG_ON(nd->inode != parent->d_inode); Dave Jones
2013-03-07 15:30 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Dave Jones
2013-03-07 17:30 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 19:35 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Dave Jones
2013-03-07 20:33 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 21:38 ` ipc/testmsg GPF Dave Jones
2013-03-07 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 21:49 ` David Miller
2013-03-07 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 22:03 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-07 22:36 ` pipe_release oops Dave Jones
2013-03-07 23:14 ` fasync_remove_entry oops Dave Jones
2013-03-07 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 23:54 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 0:20 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 0:21 ` pipe_release oops Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 14:53 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 18:26 ` Jörn Engel
2013-03-10 23:33 ` Al Viro
2013-03-12 19:09 ` Jörn Engel
2013-03-10 22:10 ` Al Viro
2013-03-11 0:35 ` Al Viro
2013-03-11 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-11 18:05 ` Al Viro
2013-03-12 13:06 ` Al Viro
2013-03-12 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-12 19:43 ` Al Viro
2013-03-12 19:56 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-12 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-12 20:51 ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-03-27 13:51 ` Yet another pipe related oops Dave Jones
2013-03-27 15:20 ` Al Viro
2013-03-27 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-27 16:53 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-03-27 17:45 ` Al Viro
2013-04-01 20:34 ` Al Viro
2013-04-01 21:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-01 21:21 ` Al Viro
2013-04-01 21:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-01 23:27 ` Al Viro
2013-04-02 0:22 ` Al Viro
2013-04-02 1:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-03-12 1:27 ` pipe_release oops Dave Jones
2013-03-09 0:27 ` ipc/testmsg GPF Peter Hurley
2013-03-09 0:32 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-11 18:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-11 19:03 ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-12 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-12 22:33 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-15 21:21 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-25 16:37 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-25 18:28 ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-25 18:39 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-07 22:18 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Dave Jones
2013-03-07 22:50 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 23:03 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Dave Jones
2013-03-07 23:55 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Linus Torvalds
2013-03-11 0:02 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Al Viro
2013-03-10 23:04 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Al Viro
2013-03-12 18:31 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode->i_op->follow_link); Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 15:04 ` BUG_ON(nd->inode != parent->d_inode); Dave Jones
2013-03-08 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 19:18 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 19:20 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 19:36 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 21:04 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 23:07 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 23:14 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 23:34 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 23:47 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 23:30 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-08 23:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-08 23:55 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 0:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-09 0:19 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 0:29 ` Raymond Jennings
2013-03-09 0:36 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-09 2:03 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-09 2:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 2:56 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 2:57 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <CA+55aFxyOYXnzDoWr7Utr1QLjjMUCON5EGH3FMvGBHxnxMJmQQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-03-09 3:25 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 3:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-09 4:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 8:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <CA+55aFweyfew3VU79ZQV4otJcWiF0=xKXxDtADXcccNxGaqMwA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-03-09 3:50 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-09 4:39 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 5:13 ` Sasha Levin
2013-03-09 5:16 ` Dave Jones
2013-03-09 3:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
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