From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: convert arm/arm64 arch timer to use CLKSRC_OF init
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:56:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201303260956.28784.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5150D54D.1070004@linaro.org>
On Monday 25 March 2013, John Stultz wrote:
> On 03/25/2013 03:36 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 25 March 2013, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> I count integrator-cp, realview, versatile and non-DT VExpress that do
> >> this (not surprisingly) and 25 platforms or timer implementations plus
> >> arm64 that do sched_clock setup in time_init. What's broken by not
> >> moving these earlier?
> > timekeeping_init() will leave the persistent_clock_exist variable as "false",
> > which is read in rtc_suspend() and timekeeping_inject_sleeptime().
>
> Are you mixing up the persistent_clock and sched_clock here? From a
> generic stand-point they have different requirements.
Ah, sorry about that. I had stumbled over the persistent_clock
issue earlier and was confusing the two.
> > For all I can tell, you will get a little jitter every time you
> > do a suspend in that case. Or perhaps it means the system clock
> > will be forwarded by the amount of time spent in suspend twice
> > after wakeup, but I'm probably misreading the code for that case.
>
> No, you shouldn't see timekeeping being incremented twice, we check in
> rtc_resume code if the persistent clock is present if so we won't inject
> any measured suspend time there. But you're probably right that we're
> being a little overly paranoid checking the same value twice.
Well, the point is that has_persistent_clock() returns false because
it is not yet active when the flag gets set in timekeeping_init(),
but when we call read_persistent_clock() in timekeeping_suspend(),
it will actually return a non-zero time.
> As far as the benefit to the persistent clock: it is just a little
> better to use, since we can access it earlier in resume, prior to
> interrupts being enabled. So we should see less time error introduced
> each suspend.
Ok.
Arnd
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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: convert arm/arm64 arch timer to use CLKSRC_OF init
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:56:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201303260956.28784.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5150D54D.1070004@linaro.org>
On Monday 25 March 2013, John Stultz wrote:
> On 03/25/2013 03:36 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 25 March 2013, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> I count integrator-cp, realview, versatile and non-DT VExpress that do
> >> this (not surprisingly) and 25 platforms or timer implementations plus
> >> arm64 that do sched_clock setup in time_init. What's broken by not
> >> moving these earlier?
> > timekeeping_init() will leave the persistent_clock_exist variable as "false",
> > which is read in rtc_suspend() and timekeeping_inject_sleeptime().
>
> Are you mixing up the persistent_clock and sched_clock here? From a
> generic stand-point they have different requirements.
Ah, sorry about that. I had stumbled over the persistent_clock
issue earlier and was confusing the two.
> > For all I can tell, you will get a little jitter every time you
> > do a suspend in that case. Or perhaps it means the system clock
> > will be forwarded by the amount of time spent in suspend twice
> > after wakeup, but I'm probably misreading the code for that case.
>
> No, you shouldn't see timekeeping being incremented twice, we check in
> rtc_resume code if the persistent clock is present if so we won't inject
> any measured suspend time there. But you're probably right that we're
> being a little overly paranoid checking the same value twice.
Well, the point is that has_persistent_clock() returns false because
it is not yet active when the flag gets set in timekeeping_init(),
but when we call read_persistent_clock() in timekeeping_suspend(),
it will actually return a non-zero time.
> As far as the benefit to the persistent clock: it is just a little
> better to use, since we can access it earlier in resume, prior to
> interrupts being enabled. So we should see less time error introduced
> each suspend.
Ok.
Arnd
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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: convert arm/arm64 arch timer to use CLKSRC_OF init
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:56:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201303260956.28784.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5150D54D.1070004@linaro.org>
On Monday 25 March 2013, John Stultz wrote:
> On 03/25/2013 03:36 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 25 March 2013, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> I count integrator-cp, realview, versatile and non-DT VExpress that do
> >> this (not surprisingly) and 25 platforms or timer implementations plus
> >> arm64 that do sched_clock setup in time_init. What's broken by not
> >> moving these earlier?
> > timekeeping_init() will leave the persistent_clock_exist variable as "false",
> > which is read in rtc_suspend() and timekeeping_inject_sleeptime().
>
> Are you mixing up the persistent_clock and sched_clock here? From a
> generic stand-point they have different requirements.
Ah, sorry about that. I had stumbled over the persistent_clock
issue earlier and was confusing the two.
> > For all I can tell, you will get a little jitter every time you
> > do a suspend in that case. Or perhaps it means the system clock
> > will be forwarded by the amount of time spent in suspend twice
> > after wakeup, but I'm probably misreading the code for that case.
>
> No, you shouldn't see timekeeping being incremented twice, we check in
> rtc_resume code if the persistent clock is present if so we won't inject
> any measured suspend time there. But you're probably right that we're
> being a little overly paranoid checking the same value twice.
Well, the point is that has_persistent_clock() returns false because
it is not yet active when the flag gets set in timekeeping_init(),
but when we call read_persistent_clock() in timekeeping_suspend(),
it will actually return a non-zero time.
> As far as the benefit to the persistent clock: it is just a little
> better to use, since we can access it earlier in resume, prior to
> interrupts being enabled. So we should see less time error introduced
> each suspend.
Ok.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-26 9:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-20 22:34 [PATCH] ARM: convert arm/arm64 arch timer to use CLKSRC_OF init Rob Herring
2013-03-20 22:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-20 22:34 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-21 11:06 ` Mark Rutland
2013-03-21 11:06 ` Mark Rutland
2013-03-21 11:06 ` Mark Rutland
2013-03-21 11:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-03-21 11:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-03-21 11:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2013-03-21 12:52 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-21 12:52 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-21 12:52 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-25 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-25 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-25 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-25 21:28 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-25 21:28 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-25 21:28 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-25 22:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-25 22:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-25 22:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-25 22:53 ` John Stultz
2013-03-25 22:53 ` John Stultz
2013-03-25 22:53 ` John Stultz
2013-03-26 2:19 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-26 2:19 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-26 2:19 ` Rob Herring
2013-03-26 9:56 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2013-03-26 9:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-26 9:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-03-25 23:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-25 23:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-25 23:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-04-23 21:23 ` [PATCH] ARM: OMAP: remove unused variable Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-23 21:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-23 21:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-23 21:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-04-23 21:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-04-23 21:26 ` Tony Lindgren
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