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From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj-sclMFOaUSTBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Matt Ranostay <mranostay-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Porter <mporter-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Walleij
	<linus.walleij-0IS4wlFg1OjSUeElwK9/Pw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Koen Kooi
	<koen-QLwJDigV5abLmq1fohREcCpxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Pantelis Antoniou
	<panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Clark <robdclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Russ Dill <Russ.Dill-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Joel A Fernandes
	<agnel.joel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] capemgr: Beaglebone DT overlay based cape manager
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130415101404.GA1952@game.jcrosoft.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301072135.05166.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>

On 21:35 Mon 07 Jan     , Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> (Adding Sascha Hauer, Linus Walleij, Lee Jones to Cc)
> 
> On Monday 07 January 2013, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > 
> > > At the end of the line, some kind of hardware glue is going to be needed.
> > > 
> > > I just feel that drawing from a sample size of 1 (maybe 2 if I get to throw
> > > in the beagleboard), it is a bit premature to think about making it overly
> > > general, besides the part that are obviously part of the infrastructure 
> > > (like the DT overlay stuff).
> > > 
> > > What I'm getting at, is that we need some user experience about this, before
> > > going away and creating structure out of possible misconception about the uses. 
> > 
> > IMHO stuff like this will be needed by many SoCs. Some examples of similar
> > things for omaps that have eventually become generic frameworks have been
> > the clock framework, USB OTG support, runtime PM, pinmux framework and
> > so on.
> > 
> > So I suggest a minimal generic API from the start as that will make things
> > a lot easier in the long run.
> 
> I agree. The ux500 platform already has the concept of "user interface boards",
> which currently is not well integrated into devicetree. I believe Sascha
> mentioned that Pengutronix had been shipping some other systems with add-on
> boards and generating device tree binaries from source for each combination.
> 
> Ideally, both of the above should be able to use the same DT overlay logic
> as BeagleBone, and I'm sure there are more of those.
I'm looking for this also as on at91 sama9x5ek and sam9cn12ek and the
sama5d3xek, we have 1 wire eeproms to detect the boards (motherboards and
daugther boards)
where we have 1 1-wire per board and cpu boards so we can detect everything
and have it's revision and more information

we already have barebox that detect the 1-wire but we need the same handling
in the kernel

Best Regards,
J.
> 
> 	Arnd
> _______________________________________________
> devicetree-discuss mailing list
> devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
> https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/devicetree-discuss

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From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
	Russ Dill <Russ.Dill@ti.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Matt Ranostay <mranostay@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Joel A Fernandes <agnel.joel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] capemgr: Beaglebone DT overlay based cape manager
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130415101404.GA1952@game.jcrosoft.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301072135.05166.arnd@arndb.de>

On 21:35 Mon 07 Jan     , Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> (Adding Sascha Hauer, Linus Walleij, Lee Jones to Cc)
> 
> On Monday 07 January 2013, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > 
> > > At the end of the line, some kind of hardware glue is going to be needed.
> > > 
> > > I just feel that drawing from a sample size of 1 (maybe 2 if I get to throw
> > > in the beagleboard), it is a bit premature to think about making it overly
> > > general, besides the part that are obviously part of the infrastructure 
> > > (like the DT overlay stuff).
> > > 
> > > What I'm getting at, is that we need some user experience about this, before
> > > going away and creating structure out of possible misconception about the uses. 
> > 
> > IMHO stuff like this will be needed by many SoCs. Some examples of similar
> > things for omaps that have eventually become generic frameworks have been
> > the clock framework, USB OTG support, runtime PM, pinmux framework and
> > so on.
> > 
> > So I suggest a minimal generic API from the start as that will make things
> > a lot easier in the long run.
> 
> I agree. The ux500 platform already has the concept of "user interface boards",
> which currently is not well integrated into devicetree. I believe Sascha
> mentioned that Pengutronix had been shipping some other systems with add-on
> boards and generating device tree binaries from source for each combination.
> 
> Ideally, both of the above should be able to use the same DT overlay logic
> as BeagleBone, and I'm sure there are more of those.
I'm looking for this also as on at91 sama9x5ek and sam9cn12ek and the
sama5d3xek, we have 1 wire eeproms to detect the boards (motherboards and
daugther boards)
where we have 1 1-wire per board and cpu boards so we can detect everything
and have it's revision and more information

we already have barebox that detect the 1-wire but we need the same handling
in the kernel

Best Regards,
J.
> 
> 	Arnd
> _______________________________________________
> devicetree-discuss mailing list
> devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
> https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/devicetree-discuss

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-15 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-07 18:51 [PATCH 0/5] DT Overlay based cape manager for TI's Beaglebone Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 1/5] capemgr: Beaglebone DT overlay based cape manager Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 20:09   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-01-07 20:13     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 20:23       ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]         ` <20130107202306.GH14149-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-07 20:26           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 20:26             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 20:35             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-01-07 20:40               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 21:05                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-01-07 21:35                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-07 21:35                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08  9:15                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08  9:15                       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08  9:51                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08  9:51                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08 10:07                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 10:07                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 10:00                       ` Lee Jones
2013-01-08 10:00                         ` Lee Jones
2013-01-08 10:10                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 10:10                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 10:48                           ` Lee Jones
2013-01-08 10:48                             ` Lee Jones
2013-01-08 12:12                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08 12:12                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08 13:26                               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 13:26                                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-08 16:12                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-08 16:12                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-09  8:11                                   ` Lee Jones
2013-01-09  8:11                                     ` Lee Jones
2013-01-09  8:29                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-01-09  8:29                                       ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                       ` <CACRpkdbx7ptCugpc1+JC5Yk+n835goOuoF6q0pdizsjpZ-G9mQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-09  9:56                                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                                           ` <57EDCDB4-2AC9-4052-BBA6-9F4A5D3C3D8C-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-09 10:21                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                               ` <201301091021.24147.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-09 10:24                                                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-09 11:48                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                           ` <201301091148.09320.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-17 10:20                                             ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                               ` <CACRpkdZ8hgV_=ev8Kcq=i7K15jrvwW+Or7p+=8fP+8Rb7GGvTQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-17 10:35                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                   ` <201301171035.41407.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-17 14:02                                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-03-26 16:16                           ` Grant Likely
2013-03-26 16:16                             ` Grant Likely
2013-03-26 18:40                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-03-26 18:40                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-08 11:14                     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-01-08 11:14                       ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                     ` <201301072135.05166.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-15 10:14                       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD [this message]
2013-04-15 10:14                         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-01-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/5] capemgr: Add beaglebone's cape driver bindings Pantelis Antoniou
2013-03-26 17:36   ` Grant Likely
2013-03-26 17:36     ` Grant Likely
2013-03-27  9:26     ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found] ` <1357584666-17374-1-git-send-email-panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-07 18:51   ` [PATCH 3/5] capemgr: am335x-bone capemgr bindings Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 18:51     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 4/5] capemgr: firmware makefiles for DT objects Pantelis Antoniou
2013-01-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 5/5] capemgr: Weather cape cape definition Pantelis Antoniou

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