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From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] [dm-devel] dm-crypt performance
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 04:28:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130422022804.GA18605@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1366576716.4048.13.camel@hidalgo>

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:38:36PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On mar., 2013-04-09 at 20:40 +0200, Arno Wagner wrote:
> > > AES uses data-dependent lookup tables, on CPU with hyperthreding, the 
> > > second thread can observe L1 cache footprint done by the first thread and 
> > > get some information about data being encrypted...
> > 
> > Yes, but that is not the only potential problem. For example, with 
> > Intel now implementing voltage regulators on the CPU, we may
> > even see power-usage based leaks. If you are paranoid, constant
> > time-contant-power implementations are the only solution. And 
> > while feasible, they are sloooooooowwwwww... 
> 
> Note that on those CPUs AES should usually use AES-NI so timing attacks
> using the cache should not be that relevant…

I should point out that I talk about "power" and not "time".

Arno
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-22  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-26  3:47 dm-crypt performance Mikulas Patocka
2013-03-26  6:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-03-26 12:27 ` [dm-crypt] [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2013-03-26 12:27   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2013-03-26 20:05   ` [dm-crypt] " Milan Broz
2013-03-26 20:05     ` Milan Broz
2013-03-26 20:28     ` [dm-crypt] " Mike Snitzer
2013-03-26 20:28       ` Mike Snitzer
2013-03-26 20:58       ` [dm-crypt] " Milan Broz
2013-03-26 20:58         ` Milan Broz
2013-03-28 18:53       ` [dm-crypt] " Tejun Heo
2013-03-28 18:53         ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-28 19:33         ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-03-28 19:33           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-28 19:44           ` [dm-crypt] " Tejun Heo
2013-03-28 19:44             ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-28 20:38             ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-03-28 20:38               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-28 20:45               ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 17:51                 ` [dm-crypt] dm-crypt parallelization patches Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 17:51                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 17:57                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 18:08                     ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 18:08                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 18:10                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 18:42                         ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 18:42                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 18:57                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 19:13                             ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 19:13                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 19:42                         ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 19:42                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 19:52                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 20:32                             ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 20:32                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 21:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 21:03                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 21:07                               ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 21:07                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 21:18                                 ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 21:18                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-10 19:24                                   ` [dm-crypt] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-10 19:24                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-10 23:42                                     ` [dm-crypt] [PATCH] make dm and dm-crypt forward cgroup context (was: dm-crypt parallelization patches) Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-10 23:42                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-10 23:50                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-11 19:49                                         ` [dm-crypt] [PATCH v2] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-11 19:49                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-11 19:52                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-11 20:00                                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-12  0:06                                               ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12  0:06                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12  0:22                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-12  5:59                                                   ` [dm-crypt] [PATCH v2] make dm and dm-crypt forward cgroup context Milan Broz
2013-04-12  5:59                                                     ` Milan Broz
2013-04-12 18:17                                                   ` [dm-crypt] [PATCH v2] make dm and dm-crypt forward cgroup context (was: dm-crypt parallelization patches) Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12 18:17                                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12 18:01                                               ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12 18:01                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-12 18:29                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-15 13:02                                                   ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-15 13:02                                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-16 17:24                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-16 19:41                                                       ` [dm-crypt] " Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-16 19:41                                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-18 16:47                                                       ` [dm-crypt] " Mike Snitzer
2013-04-18 16:47                                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-18 17:03                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 18:50                                                           ` [dm-crypt] " Mike Snitzer
2013-05-22 18:50                                                             ` Mike Snitzer
2013-05-22 19:48                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 18:36                   ` [dm-crypt] dm-crypt parallelization patches Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 18:36                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-09 18:08     ` [dm-crypt] [dm-devel] dm-crypt performance Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 18:08       ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 18:08       ` Mikulas Patocka
2013-04-09 18:40       ` [dm-crypt] " Arno Wagner
2013-04-21 20:38         ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-04-22  2:28           ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2013-04-09 18:59       ` Milan Broz
2013-04-09 18:59         ` Milan Broz

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